Anvil,
That's a good of a place to start as any.
How should we enter the information?
Anvil,
That's a good of a place to start as any.
How should we enter the information?
Just PM (or e-mail) me the info and I'll enter the data and make it part of post #1.
(This part does not have to be updated on a frequent basis)
I'll post the other spreadsheet a little later, still playing with the template.
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Hardware:
johnw,
You might have your opportunity to pick up a Cherryville 60 sooner than we had previously believed.
http://thessdreview.com/latest-buzz/...aid-all-along/
If this is to be believed, it's release is imminent, sometime in the next 3 weeks probably. (I'll believe it when I see it though.)
Intel, you know I'm going to buy one -- even if it's just an over-priced SF2281 with 25nm IMFT. You know, just like the ones that have been around since May.
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Concerning the 470 vs. 830, here is what Anand Lal Shrimpi wrote in his 512GB 830 review
I have no frame of reference, since I don't own a 470. The comparison becomes more clouded since the 830 review samples were all 256/512.Originally Posted by AnandTech
Last edited by Christopher; 12-03-2011 at 12:42 PM.
I don't believe the 520 will be seen this side of New Year, latest I've seen was Q1 2012.
If it was to be released shortly there would have been some references to "it" when searching for part# and there is next to nothing to find on those part#.
I did find it interesting that there is a 180GB edition, the gap between 120 and 240 always was a bit on the large side.
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Hardware:
No, Intel 520 is delayed until 2012Q1. thessdreview is a source that consistently demonstrates terrible journalism. It was several days ago that an Intel slide was leaked showing the 520 series coming out in 2012Q1. Several sites picked that up. But still that guy makes the comment about it coming out by New Year's. Never take anything you see on thessdreview without a huge grain of salt.
Ao1 even posted it here a couple days ago.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5006751
You do know there are other threads on xtremesystems than just this one, right?
Last edited by johnw; 12-03-2011 at 12:58 PM.
I've posted a preliminary summary in post #1, it is still in the works and I still need some input from all contestants.
(Most info can be found but it would be quicker if you all PM'd me the "missing" info)
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Hardware:
Kingston SSDNow 40GB (X25-V)
523.83TB Host writes
Reallocated sectors : 05 14
Available Reserved Space : E8 99
MD5 OK
35.03MiB/s on avg (~13 hours)
--
Corsair Force 3 120GB
01 75/50 (Raw read error rate)
05 2 (Retired Block count)
B1 53 (Wear range delta)
E6 100 (Life curve status)
E7 10 (SSD Life left)
E9 468976 (Raw writes) ->458TiB
F1 624203 (Host writes) ->610TiB
MD5 OK
106.34MiB/s on avg (~13 hours)
power on hours : 1793
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Hardware:
I dont see any specific dates, just guesses. If you are reading that literally, then you are reading too much into it.If this is to be believed, it's release is imminent, sometime in the next 3 weeks probably. (I'll believe it when I see it though.)
much outside of three weeks, and you are in Q1 2012 anyway. with specs and Product Information Sheets coming out, it isnt long.
Many also decried the very same source when he claimed that the new intel was going to be SF. Quite the show in these very forums of bashing the same source for contending that it would be an SF many many months ago, when no one else had a clue. How many yelled "no way! BS!"
How hard it was not to just let it fly! Of course it turned out to be true, its called 'insider info'.
there's even more interesting things in the future, believe it or not. MUCH more interesting.
....but there is a difference between what people know, and what they can say (at least directly)
and fyi anyone who buys into roadmaps when they arent released directly from Intel, be it Xbit or anyone else who publishes them, needs to have their head examined. Yeah, they are sometimes right, and make good conversation. LOL how many fake roadmaps have you seen? if you've been following tech for a few years, probably only a few thousand.
you need to look at this line in that article..
are we going to decry Xbit for shoddy journalism now, as well?Intel did not comment on the news-story as the plans are not made public.
Last edited by Computurd; 12-04-2011 at 12:32 AM.
"Lurking" Since 1977
Jesus Saves, God Backs-Up *I come to the news section to ban people, not read complaints.*-[XC]GomelerDon't believe Squish, his hardware does control him!
Todays update:
Kingston V+100
279.2182 TiB
1238 hours
Avg speed 26.04 MiB/s
AD still 1.
168= 1 (SATA PHY Error Count)
P/E?
MD5 OK.
Reallocated sectors : 00
Intel X25-M G1 80GB
92,6313 TiB
19357 hours
Reallocated sectors : 00
MWI=79 to 71
MD5 =OK
42.10 MiB/s on avg
Sadly my local tech dealer didn't have sata cables in stock so I have to take look elsewhere tomorrow.
Last edited by B.A.T; 12-04-2011 at 08:55 AM.
1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB
(1) You did not disclose that you are a biased source on the subject of thessdreview, as a responsible journalist would
(2) My main complaint with the original article, as I stated here previously, was that the author apparently had a confidential source for the information, but rather than stating in the article that "this information comes from a confidential source who we vetted and have reason to believe is genuine" as a responsible journalist would, the author made no statement of the kind but rather listed a couple very flimsy pieces of evidence.
Internet tech journalism has never been very good, but thessdreview stands out as the worst of the worst in this regard.
^^ Sometimes I think you just like to argue with people. It gets old sometimes!
24/7 Cruncher #1
Crosshair VII Hero, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 AIO, 4x8GB GSKILL 3600MHz C15, ASUS TUF 3090 OC
Samsung 980 1TB NVMe, Samsung 870 QVO 1TB, 2x10TB WD Red RAID1, Win 10 Pro, Enthoo Luxe TG, EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2
24/7 Cruncher #2
ASRock X470 Taichi, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer 280 AIO, 2x16GB GSKILL NEO 3600MHz C16, EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra
Samsung 970 EVO 250GB NVMe, Samsung 870 EVO 500GBWin 10 Ent, Enthoo Pro, Seasonic FOCUS Plus 850W
24/7 Cruncher #3
GA-P67A-UD4-B3 BIOS F8 mod, 2600k (L051B138) @ 4.5 GHz, 1.260v full load, Arctic Liquid 120, (Boots Win @ 5.6 GHz per Massman binning)
Samsung Green 4x4GB @2133 C10, EVGA 2080ti FTW3 Hybrid, Samsung 870 EVO 500GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Rosewill Rise, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W G2
24/7 Cruncher #4 ... Crucial M225 64GB SSD Donated to Endurance Testing (Died at 968 TB of writes...no that is not a typo!)
GA-EP45T-UD3LR BIOS F10 modded, Q6600 G0 VID 1.212 (L731B536), 3.6 GHz 9x400 @ 1.312v full load, Zerotherm Zen FZ120
OCZ 2x2GB DDR3-1600MHz C7, Gigabyte 7950 @1200/1250, Crucial MX100 128GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Centurion 590, XFX PRO650W
Music System
SB Server->SB Touch w/Android Tablet as a remote->Denon AVR-X3300W->JBL Studio Series Floorstanding Speakers, JBL LS Center, 2x SVS SB-2000 Subs
Nope, but you just proved my point. So I will move on back to testing now.
24/7 Cruncher #1
Crosshair VII Hero, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 AIO, 4x8GB GSKILL 3600MHz C15, ASUS TUF 3090 OC
Samsung 980 1TB NVMe, Samsung 870 QVO 1TB, 2x10TB WD Red RAID1, Win 10 Pro, Enthoo Luxe TG, EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2
24/7 Cruncher #2
ASRock X470 Taichi, Ryzen 3900X, 4.0 GHz @ 1.225v, Arctic Liquid Freezer 280 AIO, 2x16GB GSKILL NEO 3600MHz C16, EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra
Samsung 970 EVO 250GB NVMe, Samsung 870 EVO 500GBWin 10 Ent, Enthoo Pro, Seasonic FOCUS Plus 850W
24/7 Cruncher #3
GA-P67A-UD4-B3 BIOS F8 mod, 2600k (L051B138) @ 4.5 GHz, 1.260v full load, Arctic Liquid 120, (Boots Win @ 5.6 GHz per Massman binning)
Samsung Green 4x4GB @2133 C10, EVGA 2080ti FTW3 Hybrid, Samsung 870 EVO 500GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Rosewill Rise, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W G2
24/7 Cruncher #4 ... Crucial M225 64GB SSD Donated to Endurance Testing (Died at 968 TB of writes...no that is not a typo!)
GA-EP45T-UD3LR BIOS F10 modded, Q6600 G0 VID 1.212 (L731B536), 3.6 GHz 9x400 @ 1.312v full load, Zerotherm Zen FZ120
OCZ 2x2GB DDR3-1600MHz C7, Gigabyte 7950 @1200/1250, Crucial MX100 128GB, 2x1TB WD Red RAID1, Win10 Ent, Centurion 590, XFX PRO650W
Music System
SB Server->SB Touch w/Android Tablet as a remote->Denon AVR-X3300W->JBL Studio Series Floorstanding Speakers, JBL LS Center, 2x SVS SB-2000 Subs
Here is some information from my notes on the Samsung 470 that should help you fill in some blanks for that column.
On 2011-08-20, the 64GB Samsung 470 SSD died with the error:
NexusDB: nxEnduranceTbl: INTERNAL: Error when reading from file
[E:\DATA\Endurance.nx1, error 21, The device is not ready]
[$2401/9217].
Also, the ASU error log was full of entries like:
08/20/11 3:01:15PM - Write error 5
Screenshots at xtremesystems.org post #1385:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4932126
It wrote a total of 525.607 TB before it died.
I tested it on a Core i5-2400 machine running Win7 x64
No overprovisioning
42GB static data (41992617078B)
2011-06-29 Started testing
2011-07-05 MWI exhausted at 59.35TiB, sa177 reached normalized 1 - raw 5017
2011-08-20 ended testing at 478.04TiB
113MiB/s average write speed during test
I guess the flash is rated for 5000 P/E cycles since sa177 (~MWI) raw value was 5017 when the normalized value reached 1
FINAL REPORT:
478.037 TiB, 1300 hours, sa177: 1/1/39078, sa178: 2/2/996, sa235: 99/99/2, 3.59 MB/s
Write errors continuously logged, ASU mostly unresponsive (waiting for writes to complete that rarely do?)
storagereview.com has some pictures of the circuit board of a 256GB Samsung 470 SSD. The controller is
Samsung, S3C29MAX01-Y340, NZG0C1, S1017 ARM
and the 256GB model has 16 16GiB flash modules labeled:
Samsung 022, K9HDG08U5M, HCK0, FPA026D2
Last edited by johnw; 12-04-2011 at 11:18 AM.
Hey BAT,
I'd volunteer to overnight you some sata cables, but apparently overnighting packages to Norway isn't exactly "cost effective" from America...
I'm pretty sure it would be about as expensive as over-nighting a package within Norway, overnight prices here are insane.
@johnw
Thanks!, I've found most of your notes in the thread, will find out about the NAND but I'm pretty sure it's 32nm DDR NAND
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Hardware:
If BAT can scrounge up a SATA cable by tomorrow afternoon, we can start testing the new M4 and the 830 at the same time. That's an interesting head-to-head match-up.
1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB
In this corner, weighing in at .14 pounds, it's the Samsung 830 64GB!
And in this corner, weighing, in at 75 gram it's the blue menace, Crucial M4 64GB
1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB
Now that is a fight worth watching!
The Dark Avenger should be here in 18hrs from now. It took a day to actually ship out, but only takes one business day to deliver. I'll be in the lobby waiting for the UPS man to brings us the precious.
I'll run Anvil, CDM, and then maybe some other random bench. Then it goes in the torture chamber.
I'll try to synchronize the start with the M4.
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