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[informal]

I see many say they would be happy with performance between 2500K and 2600K. Well if you look at 1100T's performance in the test suite that will be used for BD( think most MT benchmarks) you will see that 1100T is already in between 2500K and 2600K,so I don't understand this point at all. 8150 will be in the same perf. slot as 1100T is today.,maybe just slightly better overall due to much higher clock speed. Use applications and games with lower thread count and you will see how 8150's weak cores stumble and fail to outperform even Thuban while having extra clock speed advantage. This is fail ,no excuses.

11/10 is Patch Tuesday

Is this your wish or you have any source to back this up?

[MaddMutt]

Poor AMD. We had hopes... Looks like waiting for Ivy Bridge is all that's left.

If I was Intel AND this ended up being TRUE

I would release the next chip and ADD AN EXTRA $$$$$$ 300-500 PREMIUM TO IT


But yes I have to RAISE THE FLAG ON THIS

If AMD is not competitive with BD's release then

PS: ARM/Nvidia might be able to get cheap x86 Patents >>>> this would make this remake come very true Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang said simply his company is "going to open a can of whoop-ass" on Intel.

[vietthanhpro]

dd/mm! OK ? I usually connect but no log in. He ... he...

[Lastviking]

I realy dont know what to belive...i will keep waiting, price dont go right with the test scores yet, if BD will be worse than Thuban i will by that one and wait if BD will have same upgrade that Phenom did get(Phenom I -> Phenom II).

[Piledriver]

Yes but again agena had low clocks. BD on the other hand has higher clocks than previous gen.

And? Your point makes absolutely no sense. I guess if Bulldozer was an IPC monster that couldn't clock over 1ghz would make it a not so bad of a failure despite being worse then the present bulldozer.

IPC means absolutely ZERO by itself.


Bulldozer didn't disappointed, it's making jaws drop left and right, we all know now why Dirk Meyer was showed the door.


But it's not that bad. People are comparing the infancy of a brand new arch against a mature 7\8 years old arch, in fact so mature that it couldn't go anywhere else. It's obvious AMD missed the target clocks, hence the delays, but new, faster models are coming Q1, 3.9\4.2 stock, i believe still below what AMD was hopping for, a new better core is coming in six months, discrepancies from simulations\silicon must have been there from day 1, so there's future for the damn thing, it could be in better shape by now, yes it could, in fact it should.

Edit:
And if those last orders graphs were right, these models are going to have a very short life, probably the shortest ever for cpu's, what really shows that something better is coming with new steppings, AMD is just trying to make a buck.

[dess]

Ehhmm ... you heard of dual channel my friend?

Well, now that you say, something appears... Can't think of how could I forget about it.

[muziqaz]

And? Your point makes absolutely no sense. I guess if Bulldozer was an IPC monster that couldn't clock over 1ghz would make it a not so bad of a failure despite being worse then the present bulldozer.

IPC means absolutely ZERO by itself.


Bulldozer didn't disappointed, it's making jaws drop left and right, we all know now why Dirk Meyer was showed the door.


But it's not that bad. People are comparing the infancy of a brand new arch against a mature 7\8 years old arch, in fact so mature that it couldn't go anywhere else. It's obvious AMD missed the target clocks, hence the delays, but new, faster models are coming Q1, 3.9\4.2 stock, i believe still below what AMD was hopping for, a new better core is coming in six months, discrepancies from simulations\silicon must have been there from day 1, so there's future for the damn thing, it could be in better shape by now, yes it could, in fact it should.

Who is talking about IPC?
Ok take IPC put it together with BD clocks. what do you get? You still get slower than previous gen. No one is saying to make BD an IPC monster, damn at least improve a little bit on previous gen in IPC. Just a little bit, like Llano done on Deneb. I am disapointed because of all this talk about how BD is very efficient arch and how AMD spent a lot of time weighing in all the pros and cons of use of transistors.
Of course all this rant depends on if 501 website had proper gear to test BD.

[cesariuth]

new BIOS AGESA 1.1.0.0 from gigabyte!

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...?pid=3880#bios

[informal]

It's not new... Some other board makers already have that version in their latest BIOS versions. I think this is the version found in the press kit AMD sent out .

[cesariuth]

It's not new... Some other board makers already have that version in their latest BIOS versions. I think this is the version found in the press kit AMD sent out .

In the press kit comes with F2 BIOS for the FX990 UD7

[Pt1t]

But it likes memory OC

[muziqaz]

wonder what does that mem OC do to performance.

[charged3800z24]

Oh my word, people just stop Posting!!!. "Oh, AMD, you failed I must only go to intel now, I waited so long, Bla Bla...."
We all know who can really test this hardware and who really has and knows what it can do. I haven't put any care in any of the leaks because they never tell the full story and always make things look worse. Phenom II had same leaks. When I see results from Retail chips from reviewers that we trust, then and only then will I care what is posted about the new FX chips. If it does well, then great job AMD, if not, then oh well... move on.

[NoM$_YesLinux]

But it likes memory OC

idk if it is only here, but your image link doesn't working here.

btw, any word about Bulldozer + Micron D9*** OC (JNL to be more specific)?

[demonkevy666]

Having something like prefetching disabled can lower performance by about half; microcode in the BIOS can do this, for example.

If leaked performance really is final performance, then I would say the entire management at AMD would need a visit by the nice men in white coats for actually releasing something worse than K10.5
Because if it is actually worse, then it makes no sense at all to release it.

Now I won't claim to know if it will beat SB. For all I know SB could be faster. But to be slower than K10.5 would be utterly retarded.

Ok 3 more days.
If you really think AMD is going to release a workaround at the launch then there will be many websites,including the biggest ones,which were scr*wed over by AMD since they tested the incomplete platform. This won't happen of course.

In order to get to level projected from Nov 2010 slide that was leaked,performance needs to jump up dramatically,think 40+% over this(yes this much). Not going to happen. There are only few things in a chip that can lower performance this much and still not be a bug (one of them are 2 new prefetch mechanisms AMD stated were used to offset the IPC impact of deeper pipeline;but I doubt anything is wrong or disabled,this is the final chip).

i can believe the prefetch mechanism has flaws. That would account for a bad power consumption without actual performance.

not amused at all by what can be seen by now..

^ sandy bridge did that can someone find those results? i've been looking for them and got nothing.

But it likes memory OC

first time i seen an NB actaully have a speed listed in it.

[BeepBeep2]

Oh my word, people just stop Posting!!!. "Oh, AMD, you failed I must only go to intel now, I waited so long, Bla Bla...."
We all know who can really test this hardware and who really has and knows what it can do. I haven't put any care in any of the leaks because they never tell the full story and always make things look worse. Phenom II had same leaks. When I see results from Retail chips from reviewers that we trust, then and only then will I care what is posted about the new FX chips. If it does well, then great job AMD, if not, then oh well... move on.

Uhh,

*pokes you*
"You know, Lab501 is highly regarded and very reliable tech site...*

*runs away*

[charged3800z24]

Uhh,

*pokes you*
"You know, Lab501 is highly regarded and very reliable tech site...*

*runs away*

I don't know them. I know the guys in the AMD section on XS, us. Maybe I live under a rock, but Didn't AMD put NDA over BD and no one is suppose to be pushing results right now? I don't see Chew* leaking results........

[Manicdan]

I don't know them. I know the guys in the AMD section on XS, us. Maybe I live under a rock, but Didn't AMD put NDA over BD and no one is suppose to be pushing results right now? I don't see Chew* leaking results........

thats cause AMD is keeping Chew busy playing with women, or was it LN2?

[charged3800z24]

thats cause AMD is keeping Chew busy playing with women, or was it LN2?

I wanna be like Chew* when I get big.. lol

[BeepBeep2]

I don't know them. I know the guys in the AMD section on XS, us. Maybe I live under a rock, but Didn't AMD put NDA over BD and no one is suppose to be pushing results right now? I don't see Chew* leaking results........

Well, there are a few things wrong with their review...
They used 9905, which is an Extreme OC bios, it might not wake from S3 and it seems Turbo was not working correctly for a few people. There are posts in the forum here that Lab501 didn't sign any NDA, and got their sample illegally which is most likely untrue... (Monstru isn't that stupid...) ...and they broke NDA. We have BIOS'es coming out every week or less with new updates and such for Bulldozer, it's a shame it's so close to launch.

(For example CH V is shipping with 0705 right now, which is my board came with at least.) It was very buggy with Thuban and most likely will not be optimal for BD either. Not all buyers are aware that they need to flash their bios.

idk if it is only here, but your image link doesn't working here.

btw, any word about Bulldozer + Micron D9*** OC (JNL to be more specific)?

I think you will be fine, though you might have to move to CAS 10 :p I wouldn't be shoving 1.8v+ past the IMC unless needed...

My GTS do 2000+ 9-9-9 okay on Thuban.

[nonworkingrich]

I'm so disappointed now

Well, I am too... but maybe this is what AMD is aiming for - get as many world records as possible. Not only have they got the entry for the world's fastest microprocessor, it seems they also deserve the title of delivering the world's most disappointing CPU launch ever

[imamage]

I think they will just do that. Average Joe has no idea about how fast individual core in 8150 is or whether it's slower than Thuban or i7. They will just see : unlocked!,8 cores, 3.6/4.2GHz ,water cooler bundled!1!1!. And they will buy it. Immediately. Most reviews will use MT workloads,which is fine. This is 2011/2012 after all,MT is the way to go. In such reviews 8150 will be even faster than 2500K,since even Thuban is today. But for many other tasks,individual core speed is also important. Average Joe would have no idea about that though. But we will know. The enthusiasts and well informed crowd. And excuse me AMD,but I don't need 8 bobcat level cores that clock to 4.5Ghz in my PC. I will use my Agena @ 3Ghz and be fine for another year. Then I will buy cheap Thuban and OC it to 4GHz and still be faster than 8150.

Looks like Terrace posted too much did work , lol

[Mav451]

Well, I am too... but maybe this is what AMD is aiming for - get as many world records as possible. Not only have they got the entry for the world's fastest microprocessor, it seems they also deserve the title of delivering the world's most disappointing CPU launch ever

Lol I want to laugh, but I can't. I was talking about BD since like 2009 and now that we're days away...such sad face.

[imamage]

Now I understand why the board fried Dirk Meyer and Rick Bergman resign.
Now it all makes sense now.

[imamage]

Now I understand why the board fried Dirk Meyer and Rick Bergman resign.
Now it all makes sense now.