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    Would recommend taking a look at this one, as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Boris- View Post
    Nothing points that way. Llano which is harder to produce isn't affected at all.
    Isn't affected at all!? Then why it is in short supply? While they're concentrating on these as being mainstream parts they face the biggest demand here.
    Then, most Orochi dies that produced are going to server OEM's and Cray, as Interlagoses and perhaps Valencias, at much higher profit margins than desktop CPU's.

    hand picked FMA4 with cut Y-axis.
    No cut in that diagram, base is at 0. And why hand-picked is 15 different kind of tests?
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    Meh, I was hoping for an advantage in multithread over the 2600K at least, this is mediocre performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKM View Post
    Meh, I was hoping for an advantage in multithread over the 2600K at least, this is mediocre performance.
    I think you have to consider that FX-8150 is 245 $ and i7 2600k is over 300$.
    I dont think it is mediocre, I think it is a balanced cpu, with that price it should be a cpu between i2500k and i7 2600k, and from these slides it seems to be compared like that.

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    Based on these slides it is a good step in the right direction! Not a leap forward but a solid step up.

    With that performance I won't be disappointed. Plenty of knobs to turn and keep me entertained with new BD CPU coming to my system ;].

    Can't wait really because 3 days ago I've sold my 1090T and temporary putted X2 555 in it's place. I was shocked how much slower this CPU is in games even @4GHz compared to 1090T. In Crysis2 FPS cut in HALF! Civilization 5 visibly slower, even EVE Online is jerky now! Game engines are definitely going in the right direction with MT support
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    Quote Originally Posted by liberato87 View Post
    I dont know if these are true or fake.. I assume that they re fake, unitl we have a confirmation.
    Ok game benches are gpu limited but full hd is the resolution that gamers use most.. so I dont care about benches in 1280x1024 only to see the best cpu, useless IMHO.
    what about multithread slide?
    Game benches which are not GPU limited are relevant, because you can see which processor which will be bottlenecking first in future games. That both a P4B 2.4GHz and Athlon X2 at 2.4GHz is able to get the same result in a GPU limited Q3 bench doesn't mean they perform the same in Crysis.

    Quote Originally Posted by dess View Post
    Isn't affected at all!? Then why it is in short supply? While they're concentrating on these as being mainstream parts they face the biggest demand here.
    Then, most Orochi dies that produced are going to server OEM's and Cray, as Interlagoses and perhaps Valencias, at much higher profit margins than desktop CPU's.
    GF isn't in full 32nm production yet, a large part of their capacity is still 45nm. And Llano is mostly laptop, and I don't have a hard time finding those. Nothing unusual for an AMD node transition. AMD can't have a large 32nm production so short time after the transition. At least the last 4 node transitions has been low volume the first months. Well 45nm went unusually fast. But 65nm, 90nm and 130nm was low volume for several month before they had transitioned to full capacity on the new node.

    Quote Originally Posted by dess View Post
    No cut in that diagram, base is at 0. And why hand-picked is 15 different kind of tests?
    You're right, my mistake. And it's 15 different tests, but not different kinds of test. It all measures FMA4 performance, which is unfair against SB. So still handpicked.

    Quote Originally Posted by liberato87 View Post
    I think you have to consider that FX-8150 is 245 $ and i7 2600k is over 300$.
    I dont think it is mediocre, I think it is a balanced cpu, with that price it should be a cpu between i2500k and i7 2600k, and from these slides it seems to be compared like that.
    But I feel AMD with it's better multi core performance inflate the total score across the board compared to i7 and i5. So even if it perform worse than i5 in say games they're still more expensive since benches show them faster in other areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liberato87 View Post
    I think you have to consider that FX-8150 is 245 $ and i7 2600k is over 300$.
    I dont think it is mediocre, I think it is a balanced cpu, with that price it should be a cpu between i2500k and i7 2600k, and from these slides it seems to be compared like that.
    the world+dog hope that AMD could make something faster than Intel and sell dirt cheap.

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    If those slides are fake..someone have a hell of free time.
    I think the performance is like in the slides. And it just show to us that it's a 4core/8thread.

    Does anyone have gaming benchmarks comparing 980X, Deneb and Thuban at 1920x1080?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKM View Post
    Meh, I was hoping for an advantage in multithread over the 2600K at least, this is mediocre performance.
    Yep, agreed, if the slides are TRUE, which i still doubt it quite strongly. If they are, then BD is a flop overall, a 315 mm^2 chip without graphic doing so poorly vs a 220 mm^2 chip with graphic, fact that both are the most up to date design you can buy in the next few weeks.

    Yeah it's cheaper, because it HAS to be, i think AMD would certainly want it priced higher as a 140% bigger chip on the same process supposed to be, should the performance warrant it in the first place.
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