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BeepBeep, I admit that I have no clue about what was your intention with the last post. Summary of quotes plus some vague estimate how much die area would X8 K10 have? Who cares about 32nm X8 K10? It's not going to happen so why discuss it? And as for Bulldozer ,there are so many unknowns that it's not even funny. We have no real/official benchmark on final platform, no official launch date, no shipping date for Zambezi and no official price. We do have some bits and pieces here and there,some painting good some bad picture. That's all.

It really should have been three or four posts...and I seem to add on to my thoughts so a lot of information does get jumbled up.

Ignore my jumbled response to manicdan + freeloader on "stars" arch to 8 cores on 32nm and the effects it would have on performance + die space. (in freeloaders case, 8 core with 12MB L3 + tri channel memory) would be a larger die on 32nm than thuban is on 45nm.

As far as Bulldozer:
Yes you are right, no "real" official benchmarks.

But there are two peices of information available:
chew*'s words about how the architecture is more like a 4 core with HT + leaked unofficial benchmarks that show multi-threading performance in several cases lower than Thuban, making some people assume that IPC is lower than Deneb. People are looking at these results and dividing by 7 to 8 for "theoretical leaked single thread performance" and talking about how IPC is lower. Maybe it is(!)

...chew* states that running a program as simple as pi on two cores "one module" brings better SINGLE thread performance, goes back to what I predicted a month ago as soon as he said the architecture works more like a 4 core with HT the first time.

Several weeks ago, my prediction was this:
Higher IPC in 4 threads or less
Lower IPC in more than four threads, but better scaling than HyperThreading.

Hopefully this post is a little easier to understand

EDIT:
Cleaned up the first post a bit if you'd like to take another stab at it.