Quote Originally Posted by XRL8 View Post
Uhm.
Im old.
I was primarily addressing beep. You do seem to agree with me in spirit though, noting the 65nm shrink's less than steller performance jump. The string of these shrink events are the history I base my generalization on. It's more historically accurate than someone expecting a major increase.

Quote Originally Posted by drfedja
Bulldozer is high frequency design. Only limit for clocking 8 core BD@5 GHz is TDP.
My point isn't in regards to BD. I've been referring to beep's quote, "Considering a simple Stars shrink to 32nm should do 4.6-4.8 Ghz I would guess." It's a bad assumption based on history.

As for BD itself, we don't have any idea what frequency target the BD design had in mind during design, just that it should be higher than Phenom II. Hopefully there aren't any major problems with that goal, but if there are by the time the chips hit retail we'll likely see a later stepping fix them. I'm not worried about it. Also, 4.8 GHz turbo is old info. The latest rumors are that the 3.8 turbos to 4.2. Also keep in mind that these are rumors. We don't know any launch models with certainty.