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Historically, node shrinks haven't worked magic for AMD. I know you haven't seen many shrinks yet, but that's just how it has been for them to date. The most lackluster shrink in my memory was when Thoroughbred cores came out on 130nm. They had trouble matching what 180nm had been doing at first.

HKMG may change things or maybe it will be a good node for AMD regardless. You just can't assume that a new node will mean a magic 20-25% frequency increase based on history, and that's my only real bone to pick here. People are expecting 5 GHz when even 4 GHz is a mixed bag? They're setting themselves up for disappointment.

Uhm.
Im old.
Palominos were pretty lackluster in overclocking department, 1.7-1.8ghz was really max what they do.
Thoroughbred-A had a problem, yes, it overclocked 1.9-2.1 and was hot.It was a failed design, AMD quickly had done Tbred-B, which overclocked like crazy.2.3ghz up to 2.5 on water.Had one DLT3C if i remember correctly, done 2330 on air.Than came the barton, which on the same node pushed up to 2.7ghz on water.My barton mobile did post on winter air at 2.95ghz ,My palomino 1700+ on the same board did 1.85ghz max POST.Dont tell me thats no difference.

However, if you want to poimt out failed shrink.
Theres the brisbane core.
65nm brisbane clocked worse than 90nm windsor, at the same time being slower clock for clock.