By DonanimHaber:
Llano pricing is down right insane if its true 0_o
By DonanimHaber:
Llano pricing is down right insane if its true 0_o
Jeez... that cheap? ...
Hmmmmm ... let's see how it goes then ... :P
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Sure thing. Here you go:
FX-8130P = $320
FX-8110 = $290
FX-6110 = $240
FX-4110 = $190
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I wouldn't trust this info. 99% likely that this is just yet another rumour.
I suppose the top model should be unlocked. Guess this is the difference between FX8130P and FX8110 (that and TDP).
The top model is also a speed bump of 0.2MHz.
If the pricing is real, that slots the top FX8 inbetween i7-2600 and 980x? Thats would be pretty good for AMD!
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It should be faster than a stock 980X, otherwise it's a flop... It's been out for over a year, and there are a bunch more Intel chips coming in Q3-Q4.
Last edited by zalbard; 05-20-2011 at 07:36 AM.
TDP:
97 W
96 W
95 W
125 W
Really?
But the prices doesn't surprise me at all. BD would have to be a lot faster than the 2600K and near future speed bumps to actually become much more expensive.
we already saw these numbers a few days ago.
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2500k @ 4900mhz - Asus Maxiums IV Gene Z - Swiftech Apogee LP
GTX 680 @ +170 (1267mhz) / +300 (3305mhz) - EK 680 FC EN/Acteal
Swiftech MCR320 Drive @ 1300rpms - 3x GT 1850s @ 1150rpms
XS Build Log for: My Latest Custom Case
Or he is just trolling you guys since there is virtually 0 information around and the release date is close. Playing on the anticipation to get site hits, etc.
If these are in anyway accurate, it means two things.
1. AMD doesn't want to compete with 980X.
2. AMD believes that it's 4 module/8 core top end FX can at least equal the i7 2600K performance-wise.
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Car analogies = instant fail.
That's two words. I'll reply with two words as well: "lagging behind".
They manage to catch up just to get stomped by IB in mid range (possibly partially SB as well, it beats 980X in quite a few cases) and SB-E in top range.
So much for the BD hype and all those long years of waiting and development.
Last edited by zalbard; 05-20-2011 at 08:07 AM.
this information was not first post in DonanimHaber...is from http://diybbs.zol.com.cn/10/11_99045.html
So you start out with:
But based on this info you arrive at:
Well done.
How about quiting the fanboy talk and wait for some real numbers, huh?
2600K does beat a 980x is some benchmarks. In those where it doesn't, BD is very likely to do much better. See Cine R10 numbers from OBR as an example. 980x stock beaten there.
If you look at average scores in desktop apps, 980x is just a tiny bit faster than 2600K(around 5% or less).This is because desktop workloads are not as parallel as server ones. If Bulldozer is faster than 2600K on desktop,in such "non-parallel" world,as its price indicates(320>295$),then it means it should be close or faster than 980x too.Just logic. Now,whether it will manage to beat or tie 980x in truly parallel desktop workloads,like WCG,rendering etc. is yet to be seen.
no. im german, born in stuttgart (the cars was invented there, its home of mercedes & porsche) and living in munich (bmw). so car analogies = the best thing ever. everyone knows cars, so its easy to understand.
no, BD wont lagg behind. it depends what u r doing with it. server will rock.
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the example though is not really matching. no one would expect that a car changes enough in 2 years to beat something thats worth +5x the price. cpu depreciation is like 50% a year, for cars its like 10% (until a certain point it becomes a classic and then prices go up)
i dont disagree with car analogies, but the pricing method for both is way too different. lets imagine if the next corvette that came out somehow stripped its weight by 1000lbs and kept its 50k$ price tag, and was faster than any lamborghini, does that mean it will reduce all lambo's prices down to 40k? no, because one is a production car and one is a supercar thats made in limited quantities.
with cpus, the size of the chip, and the process are the 2 biggest factors. 300mm2 on 32nm should be pretty close to each other (10-20% performance), just because a car costing 20k$ or 200k$ both have 3000lbs of steel does not mean they are built anywhere near the same way and can have vastly different performance (5x the horsepower)
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How come the 95 wat version is cheaper than the 125 watt version. Usually it was the other way around
If the i7 2600k and top FX have similar price and stock performance, but intel keeps the best overclocking potential things can go bad. Their success on that price bracket will depend a lot on that.
Phenom I X4s also had great value @stock and were priced competitively to 775s, but the OC potential of a Q6600 was no match and current SB Ks set the goal very high. I hope BD can really dominate a 2600k in multitasking, so it won't depend on that.
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