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    Im following this build! Very high quality, and BSG is awsome too

    A couple thoughts:
    The tubing between the gpu and cpu, i think it would be better to ditch the 45s and just use normal straight fittings.
    Also, on the left pwm block. Move the connection to the mb block from the top to the bottom. then connect the rad on the top one without any 45s

    This should, in my opinion, straighten/smoothen the flow by cutting down 45s without introducing the same with the tubing. It would also look abit cleaner.
    Last edited by eXa; 05-08-2011 at 08:06 PM.
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    Good news:
    1) Controlling all 21 fans via ASUS Fan Xpert through mobo CPU PWM fan connector works perfectly

    2) New GPUs are fine. I was a tad bit worried about DOA since I didn't test but Palit's QA is good

    Stock vid on both is 1.013v and after couple hours I got rock solid stable stock voltage OC at:
    865mhz core
    2260 memory

    I was shocked with the memory OC, this 256MB Elpida chips are awesome!
    I couldn't get much past 2000mhz on my 480s!

    Temps are:
    21C idle
    35C stock speed load
    38C OC speed load
    all this with fans 50C, 18C ambient

    3) What's best, at roughly similar settings I get >400W less off the wall than with 3x480s!

    Bad News:

    Aquaero is dead.
    No USB device neither so I'm going to order 5.0, hopefully will get one for tomorrow.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tigris STI View Post
    This ^^^

    @luke997 Your project makes me want to buy a Lian Li A77B But sadly it was discontinued
    BTW, why do you hide all that awesomeness behind the side panel ? Why not make a window and add some lights inside ?
    Thanks

    There is A77F available, similar case, dimensions are just a little bit different.

    Quote Originally Posted by theseeker View Post
    Epic build all around! I truly appreciate your attention to detail and you get a blue ribbon.
    One question for you; how did you mount the acrylic to the 3-way SLI bridge? I am building a Tri-SLI rig and will be doing something similar.
    Good luck with the upgrades.
    Thanks!
    I used regular UHU glue.

    Quote Originally Posted by eXa View Post
    Im following this build! Very high quality, and BSG is awsome too

    A couple thoughts:
    The tubing between the gpu and cpu, i think it would be better to ditch the 45s and just use normal straight fittings.
    Also, on the left pwm block. Move the connection to the mb block from the top to the bottom. then connect the rad on the top one without any 45s

    This should, in my opinion, straighten/smoothen the flow by cutting down 45s without introducing the same with the tubing. It would also look abit cleaner.
    Thanks, appreciate!

    I see what you mean and it certainly would look better.
    Unfortunately with the current components it's the only sensible way it could work - that's due to how the Primochill LRT tubing stiff is.
    Even using more force than I really should I couldn't fit shorter/tighter bends so it'll have to stay that way.
    Shame that there's no full cover block, it would make everything much easier and look better.

    On a positive side, the 45s don't affect flow much so I'm not concerned about the efficiency.
    Check out my WC worklog: BSG Pegasus - Lian Li PC-A77B
    Rev. 1.0 Photos ----- Rev 1.1 Photos ----- Rev 1.4 Photos ----- Rev 2.0 Photos ----- Rev 3.0 Photos -----
    Detailed flow comparison across all revisions ----- i7 980X @ 4960Mhz


    PC:
    i7 980X 4.2GHz @1.31v / Asus Rampage III Black Edition / Corsair Dom GT 3x4GB 2000 CL9 / 2x Palit GTX 580 3GB
    Crucial RealSSD C300 256GB / 2x WD 2TB EARS / WD 2.5" 500GB / LG Blu-Ray DVD
    Lian Li PC-A77B / Enermax Revolution 85+ 1250W / MS X-6 / SS Ikari / Logitech G27 + X230 / Win 7 x64 Pro
    3x Dell AW2310 120Hz 3D + Nvidia 3D Vision Surround

    WC:
    3x DDC 3.25 + 3x HTS-PMP400 / EK DDC Dual V2 + Single V2 Tops - Single loop / EK Multi-Option / Bitspower fittings
    EK Supreme HF v3 / 2x EK GTX 5X0 Acetal + Nickel / Primochill LRT Black 1/2 ID 3/4 OD
    2x XSPC RX360 + RX240 / Aquaero 5 Pro + flow & temp sensors / 21x Akasa Apache Black

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    Glad to hear that GC's are fine Looks like Palit have greatly improved their QC - Some of my friends previously experienced problems with Palit products
    Quote Originally Posted by luke997 View Post
    There is A77F available, similar case, dimensions are just a little bit different.
    Yeah, I know, but I don't like its front Although it is quite similar to A77B, the rounded sides on the latter look much better in my opinion

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    Aquaero 5 PRO just came in...

    We have a new arrival - Aquaero 5 Pro



    I think this calls for some painting - it will be back in black shortly!
    Check out my WC worklog: BSG Pegasus - Lian Li PC-A77B
    Rev. 1.0 Photos ----- Rev 1.1 Photos ----- Rev 1.4 Photos ----- Rev 2.0 Photos ----- Rev 3.0 Photos -----
    Detailed flow comparison across all revisions ----- i7 980X @ 4960Mhz


    PC:
    i7 980X 4.2GHz @1.31v / Asus Rampage III Black Edition / Corsair Dom GT 3x4GB 2000 CL9 / 2x Palit GTX 580 3GB
    Crucial RealSSD C300 256GB / 2x WD 2TB EARS / WD 2.5" 500GB / LG Blu-Ray DVD
    Lian Li PC-A77B / Enermax Revolution 85+ 1250W / MS X-6 / SS Ikari / Logitech G27 + X230 / Win 7 x64 Pro
    3x Dell AW2310 120Hz 3D + Nvidia 3D Vision Surround

    WC:
    3x DDC 3.25 + 3x HTS-PMP400 / EK DDC Dual V2 + Single V2 Tops - Single loop / EK Multi-Option / Bitspower fittings
    EK Supreme HF v3 / 2x EK GTX 5X0 Acetal + Nickel / Primochill LRT Black 1/2 ID 3/4 OD
    2x XSPC RX360 + RX240 / Aquaero 5 Pro + flow & temp sensors / 21x Akasa Apache Black

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    Few coats of matte black later - matches the case nicely and looks much better:



    Time to get it connected...
    Check out my WC worklog: BSG Pegasus - Lian Li PC-A77B
    Rev. 1.0 Photos ----- Rev 1.1 Photos ----- Rev 1.4 Photos ----- Rev 2.0 Photos ----- Rev 3.0 Photos -----
    Detailed flow comparison across all revisions ----- i7 980X @ 4960Mhz


    PC:
    i7 980X 4.2GHz @1.31v / Asus Rampage III Black Edition / Corsair Dom GT 3x4GB 2000 CL9 / 2x Palit GTX 580 3GB
    Crucial RealSSD C300 256GB / 2x WD 2TB EARS / WD 2.5" 500GB / LG Blu-Ray DVD
    Lian Li PC-A77B / Enermax Revolution 85+ 1250W / MS X-6 / SS Ikari / Logitech G27 + X230 / Win 7 x64 Pro
    3x Dell AW2310 120Hz 3D + Nvidia 3D Vision Surround

    WC:
    3x DDC 3.25 + 3x HTS-PMP400 / EK DDC Dual V2 + Single V2 Tops - Single loop / EK Multi-Option / Bitspower fittings
    EK Supreme HF v3 / 2x EK GTX 5X0 Acetal + Nickel / Primochill LRT Black 1/2 ID 3/4 OD
    2x XSPC RX360 + RX240 / Aquaero 5 Pro + flow & temp sensors / 21x Akasa Apache Black

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    Time to wrap up V1.5 upgrade and draw conlusions:

    1) GTX 580 3GB with EK-FC5X0 GW Acetal Nickel blocks in series
    Result: Win


    Better performance in 3DVS, higher AA available, almost 400W less power draw from the wall.

    2) 2x Koolance PMP-450S (D5 Strong) 24V pumps with Koolance 12V-->24V converters
    Result: Epic Fail


    With 2 pump at full (24V, 6000RPM) speed I'm getting 165 l/h.
    Comparing to previous 225l/h with 1 more GPU block (albeit in parallel and different design) doesn't look like an improvement, does it...
    On top of that I have to run it at ~20V - 145 l/h - otherwise they are very noisy (vibrations)

    3) 12GB (3x4GB) RAM - Corsair Dominators GT, 2000mhz @ CL9
    Result 12GB RAM: Win
    Result Dominator GT: Fail


    12GB is win - no more page file, much better in Vegas.
    Dominators GT are fail. Best they'll do is ~1930mhz at CL10 and that's with 1.35V QPI!
    My previous Dominators did ~ 2003mhz @ CL9 with 1.31v QPI.
    Maybe I got a bad batch - but as a high end product and price such should be quality and QA)

    4) All fans controlled by single CPU header on the mobo (PWM signal only)
    Result: Win


    Works perfect, single setting in Asus Fan Xpert to controll all fans!


    5) Back to EK res on the dual D5 top - this time 140mm.
    Result: Win


    Less bling more classy - plus easier to fill the loop


    6) Additional water temp sensor on the inlet to second (top 360) rad
    Result: Win


    Obviously

    7)Aquaero 5.0 Pro
    Result: Epic Win


    Not much to say - is there? Just an excellent controller
    No PC software yet but you can do most of the stuff (not as easy though) through the panel.


    What now? If you've been following the worklog - it's pretty easy to guess.

    Version 1.6 rework on Friday/Saturday (while I still have the time).

    Changes:
    1) In: 3x DDC 3.25 - EK Dual Top V2 + EK Top V2
    Out: 2x Koolance PMP-450S (D5 Strong) 24V pumps with Koolance 12V-->24V converters


    Why? Obviously I won't live with 145l/h , and I've found this:
    Skinee Labs EK 3x DDC

    Which convinced me that combined head of 3xDDC 3.25 should at least get me back to 200-230l/h range.
    Check out my WC worklog: BSG Pegasus - Lian Li PC-A77B
    Rev. 1.0 Photos ----- Rev 1.1 Photos ----- Rev 1.4 Photos ----- Rev 2.0 Photos ----- Rev 3.0 Photos -----
    Detailed flow comparison across all revisions ----- i7 980X @ 4960Mhz


    PC:
    i7 980X 4.2GHz @1.31v / Asus Rampage III Black Edition / Corsair Dom GT 3x4GB 2000 CL9 / 2x Palit GTX 580 3GB
    Crucial RealSSD C300 256GB / 2x WD 2TB EARS / WD 2.5" 500GB / LG Blu-Ray DVD
    Lian Li PC-A77B / Enermax Revolution 85+ 1250W / MS X-6 / SS Ikari / Logitech G27 + X230 / Win 7 x64 Pro
    3x Dell AW2310 120Hz 3D + Nvidia 3D Vision Surround

    WC:
    3x DDC 3.25 + 3x HTS-PMP400 / EK DDC Dual V2 + Single V2 Tops - Single loop / EK Multi-Option / Bitspower fittings
    EK Supreme HF v3 / 2x EK GTX 5X0 Acetal + Nickel / Primochill LRT Black 1/2 ID 3/4 OD
    2x XSPC RX360 + RX240 / Aquaero 5 Pro + flow & temp sensors / 21x Akasa Apache Black

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    Here's couple in-game benches before I change the pumps.

    All in benchmarks run with:
    Settings: Maximum
    AA: 8x
    Resolution: 6000x1080
    Stereo: 3D

    1) Mafia II
    Average: 32.5
    VRAM Usage: 1050

    2) F1 2010
    Average: 39
    VRAM Usage: 2600

    3) Just Cause 2 - Desert Sunrise
    Average: 34
    VRAM Usage: 1300

    4) Dirt 2
    Average: 53
    VRAM Usage: 2200

    All run @ my OC 24/7 settings, great results in my book - considering such high res in 3D - finally everything playable on max!

    There are other great side effect to these 580s too:
    - no more flicker in side monitors in 3D Surround (there was pulsing brightness change with 480s, not sure why, I could live with it but it was annoying)
    - no more black textures in the distance in Mafia while driving
    Check out my WC worklog: BSG Pegasus - Lian Li PC-A77B
    Rev. 1.0 Photos ----- Rev 1.1 Photos ----- Rev 1.4 Photos ----- Rev 2.0 Photos ----- Rev 3.0 Photos -----
    Detailed flow comparison across all revisions ----- i7 980X @ 4960Mhz


    PC:
    i7 980X 4.2GHz @1.31v / Asus Rampage III Black Edition / Corsair Dom GT 3x4GB 2000 CL9 / 2x Palit GTX 580 3GB
    Crucial RealSSD C300 256GB / 2x WD 2TB EARS / WD 2.5" 500GB / LG Blu-Ray DVD
    Lian Li PC-A77B / Enermax Revolution 85+ 1250W / MS X-6 / SS Ikari / Logitech G27 + X230 / Win 7 x64 Pro
    3x Dell AW2310 120Hz 3D + Nvidia 3D Vision Surround

    WC:
    3x DDC 3.25 + 3x HTS-PMP400 / EK DDC Dual V2 + Single V2 Tops - Single loop / EK Multi-Option / Bitspower fittings
    EK Supreme HF v3 / 2x EK GTX 5X0 Acetal + Nickel / Primochill LRT Black 1/2 ID 3/4 OD
    2x XSPC RX360 + RX240 / Aquaero 5 Pro + flow & temp sensors / 21x Akasa Apache Black

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