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    So I started playing around overclocking today.

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    Everything was set to xmp profile/default/auto.

    Did a simple switch to 21•200 and system seems completely stable. Running longer prime 95 now.

    One question I has was for real world day to day usage, is going any higher net me any significant gains?

    I eventually want to see how high I can push this but it's also my mission critical work comp. So I can only really play with it in the weekends.


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    4-4.3 range seems to be the best range... though for them 970's and 990's it seems you can pull off 4.4-4.5 daily pretty easily. it takes me 1.4375 vcore just to run 4.3ghz daily and even that's pushin it in my opinion but i have a 980.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoson View Post
    .

    How are you getting tRFC 98 spool? Is it 'auto' ? I can choose 90, then it skips to 100...
    I also tried very hard to get 2.1ghz with cas 8, but I couldn't get stability, and my mem is already at 1.65v... I know everyone says that I can set my vDDR to vQPI + .47v, but I've been stopping at 1.65v since I haven't seen any actual Intel documentation supporting the theory...
    I did get booted into windows at 2.2ghz with cas 9, but didn't have time to stabilize it last night.
    And yes, I'm doing all of this with IC modules with JEDEC 1333, but they are XMP 1600 6-8-6-24-72-1T.

    I also took my board up to 217bclk without slow mode yesterday, but that needs more work too...

    I still am wondering how to fix the >9gb problem with linx that tanks my Gflops...

    Also, can I suggest that people use thumbnails on the forum instead of posting full width pictures? It makes the forum so annoying to read!!!
    seems with the speeds you're going for, you're going to need increase QPI voltage. if you're still posting with all 12 gigs at startup with 1.65v with that speed and cas then it's not DRAM voltage you need, but more QPI or (VTT) and higher uncore to get it stable. also, you'll need to play with the RTL's and tRL's 1 knotch at a time to get it just right. it takes fffffoooooorrrrrrr eeeeevvvvveeeeerrrr i've been trying endlessly to get 2000mhz stable just to have higher uncore and that's been more than just a pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuldarin View Post
    seems with the speeds you're going for, you're going to need increase QPI voltage. if you're still posting with all 12 gigs at startup with 1.65v with that speed and cas then it's not DRAM voltage you need, but more QPI or (VTT) and higher uncore to get it stable. also, you'll need to play with the RTL's and tRL's 1 knotch at a time to get it just right. it takes fffffoooooorrrrrrr eeeeevvvvveeeeerrrr i've been trying endlessly to get 2000mhz stable just to have higher uncore and that's been more than just a pain.
    You need to follow the thread more closely. This is the third time you're posting and I've had to say that to you. Clearly in my screenshot you can see I'm using only 6GB of my 18GB right now. Not to mention, I stated above the thumbnail '6gb 2.1ghz'.

    I never have Gflop problems under 9GB memory in use(so if I have all 18GB in, but specify it to use 9gb ram, I get full GFlops). Since you don't have enough ram, You can't even test to see if you're having the problem or not.

    I also can't get my uncore past 3.8GHz, and I normally run it at 3.6GHz. I stated this in one of my posts that you replied to incorrectly previously.

    I don't intend to sound mean with this. I'm very irritated with you for offering advice multiple times that has nothing to do with the problems I have. I read your posts and it makes me feel like this:
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    could someone add the upgrade intel sata bios version 10.1.0.1008 in 1005, have a temperature problem where the bios 1005 is the one that solves my problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OráculoŽ View Post
    could someone add the upgrade intel sata bios version 10.1.0.1008 in 1005, have a temperature problem where the bios 1005 is the one that solves my problem!
    Even in 1208 you have the problem? I had the temp problem with 1102, but it is fixed in 1207 and 0003 for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuldarin View Post
    4-4.3 range seems to be the best range... though for them 970's and 990's it seems you can pull off 4.4-4.5 daily pretty easily. it takes me 1.4375 vcore just to run 4.3ghz daily and even that's pushin it in my opinion but i have a 980.
    Yes but the 4.2 is an idiot oc. So I'm good there for daily.

    I'll play with it but not stress on oc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoson View Post
    How are you getting tRFC 98 spool? Is it 'auto' ? I can choose 90, then it skips to 100...
    I also tried very hard to get 2.1ghz with cas 8, but I couldn't get stability, and my mem is already at 1.65v... I know everyone says that I can set my vDDR to vQPI + .47v, but I've been stopping at 1.65v since I haven't seen any actual Intel documentation supporting the theory...
    Yea tRFC is on AUTO. If I set it manually it's like you said, 90 then 100.

    Also I agree I have not seen any Intel documentation proving that theory. But people seem to follow that rule as if it's fact. I read on another forum where someone (I think Raja) may have explained how the current distribution works between the vQpi and Vdimm rails. I remember after reading though that I decided the rule was legit.

    Quote Originally Posted by zoson View Post
    Also, can I suggest that people use thumbnails on the forum instead of posting full width pictures? It makes the forum so annoying to read!!!
    My bad . I do that so it's easy for people to see without having to open another tab or window and zooming in to see the details. I honestly don't like posting thumbnails. I'll resize my screenshots and make them a bit smaller.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deboyzfun View Post
    Yes, Finally the sata option rom has been updated to 10.1.0.1008
    This is great news. Finally Asus is on board.

    Well not entirely IMO. The Marvell firmware and bios remain the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by tistou77 View Post
    in bios, what is the option "Onboard SATA Controller" in the Advanced/Onboard Device Configuration?

    thanks
    I believe that option is for the JMicron eSATA controller
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoson View Post
    Even in 1208 you have the problem? I had the temp problem with 1102, but it is fixed in 1207 and 0003 for me.
    I have this problem of temperature with any version later than 1005, the sensor is very slow and also there is an increase of + or - 10 ° C. The asus has never managed to solve this problem for me here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoson View Post
    You need to follow the thread more closely. This is the third time you're posting and I've had to say that to you. Clearly in my screenshot you can see I'm using only 6GB of my 18GB right now. Not to mention, I stated above the thumbnail '6gb 2.1ghz'.

    I never have Gflop problems under 9GB memory in use(so if I have all 18GB in, but specify it to use 9gb ram, I get full GFlops). Since you don't have enough ram, You can't even test to see if you're having the problem or not.

    I also can't get my uncore past 3.8GHz, and I normally run it at 3.6GHz. I stated this in one of my posts that you replied to incorrectly previously.

    I don't intend to sound mean with this. I'm very irritated with you for offering advice multiple times that has nothing to do with the problems I have. I read your posts and it makes me feel like this:
    Whoa now I only offered advice this last post as a guess at what might help. Don't take it to heart. Its just that the speeds you're trying to hit are pretty high. This last time was more of an agreement to the difficulty. I use 12gb of mem with 6 sticks my self and its VERY difficult to get it linx stable, specially with high uncore.

    The only real advice I can give is stick with the stock base clock and your mems ratted speed at first and then increase bclk up to where you need it for those speeds you're going for and see what the qpi data link rate is at after starting at 6400. That'll give you a good idea as to what uncore you can use as higher uncore requires higher data link which requires higher qpi voltage. That's all I was getting at... its stupid hard to be linx stable with 12 plus gb mem stable at high speeds with high uncore. Other than that I can only say try swaping mem stick to different dimm slots to see if there's any change for the best regardless of how much mem you use. Just know that having two different sized sticks per chan could cause other uneeded problems due to every otherring stick of ram being double the size which requires double the effert to clock compared to the smaller stick in the same channel.

    I'm not tryin to frustrate you, most of what I may have hinted at is only coming from my own frustration trying to do the same thing as you. I do follow your posts and do see what you're doing but I also see your difficulty, most of what'd I had said is only in retrosprect to what you are having problems with. Hell with 6gb of mem on mine I STILL can't get higher then 1900 mem speed. Any higher than about 1940, sticks start droping out regardless of what voltages I use or high much I adjust any timings at all. 12gb and higher is really difficult in general period... and I feel your pain >.<

    EDIT: also I do read sig a lot and asume system hardware from that ahead of time of whic I am sorry if I confused you going that route as your sig says system mem of 12gb. Just know those higher uncores are a pain and its more to do with the cpu imc rather than motherboard. And I will say that I don't notice much increase of performance past 3400 uncore. After that its more pure cpu power over anything else that's sanely obtainable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoolindsm127 View Post
    I believe that option is for the JMicron eSATA controller
    ok thanks
    Sorry for my english

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    BIOS 1208

    Even though it's an odd increment but supposedly is suppose to go on the download page in 2 days.

    anyone have release notes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuldarin View Post
    Whoa now I only offered advice this last post as a guess at what might help. Don't take it to heart. Its just that the speeds you're trying to hit are pretty high. This last time was more of an agreement to the difficulty. I use 12gb of mem with 6 sticks my self and its VERY difficult to get it linx stable, specially with high uncore.

    The only real advice I can give is stick with the stock base clock and your mems ratted speed at first and then increase bclk up to where you need it for those speeds you're going for and see what the qpi data link rate is at after starting at 6400. That'll give you a good idea as to what uncore you can use as higher uncore requires higher data link which requires higher qpi voltage. That's all I was getting at... its stupid hard to be linx stable with 12 plus gb mem stable at high speeds with high uncore. Other than that I can only say try swaping mem stick to different dimm slots to see if there's any change for the best regardless of how much mem you use. Just know that having two different sized sticks per chan could cause other uneeded problems due to every otherring stick of ram being double the size which requires double the effert to clock compared to the smaller stick in the same channel.

    I'm not tryin to frustrate you, most of what I may have hinted at is only coming from my own frustration trying to do the same thing as you. I do follow your posts and do see what you're doing but I also see your difficulty, most of what'd I had said is only in retrosprect to what you are having problems with. Hell with 6gb of mem on mine I STILL can't get higher then 1900 mem speed. Any higher than about 1940, sticks start droping out regardless of what voltages I use or high much I adjust any timings at all. 12gb and higher is really difficult in general period... and I feel your pain >.<

    EDIT: also I do read sig a lot and asume system hardware from that ahead of time of whic I am sorry if I confused you going that route as your sig says system mem of 12gb. Just know those higher uncores are a pain and its more to do with the cpu imc rather than motherboard. And I will say that I don't notice much increase of performance past 3400 uncore. After that its more pure cpu power over anything else that's sanely obtainable.
    I really don't need or want *your* help in particular.
    Again your post is off the mark as clearly I've already stabilized 2.1ghz and blown way past 200BCLK without slow mode.

    Clearly I understand what the uncore limit of my cpu is since I already noted that mine doesn't do better than 3.8, and I usually run it at 3.6...

    Also, I don't have stability problems with 12 or 18gb. I just have linx gflop problems if I tell it to allocate more than 9gb ram. Again, this is the third time I'm mentioning that to you.

    I feel like I'm at this point when it comes to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claydough View Post
    BIOS 1208

    Even though it's an odd increment but supposedly is suppose to go on the download page in 2 days.

    anyone have release notes?
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    Strange I7 970 i got.

    Yesterday 4,4 ghz max im my board today allmost 5,2 ghz on watercooling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasmus66 View Post
    Strange I7 970 i got.

    Yesterday 4,4 ghz max im my board today allmost 5,2 ghz on watercooling

    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1758435
    hopefully you can get this cpu on ice/ln2 and make us 970 owners wanna
    smash our heads in the wall for not using enough voltage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreezy View Post
    hopefully you can get this cpu on ice/ln2 and make us 970 owners wanna
    smash our heads in the wall for not using enough voltage.
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    4.3GHz 21x205 with 2100MHz mem:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreezy View Post
    hopefully you can get this cpu on ice/ln2 and make us 970 owners wanna
    smash our heads in the wall for not using enough voltage.
    Huh I really need to play with my chip, I'm at 4.2 on stock volts.

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    Running 1208, it's functioning perfectly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoson View Post
    I really don't need or want *your* help in particular.
    Again your post is off the mark as clearly I've already stabilized 2.1ghz and blown way past 200BCLK without slow mode.

    Clearly I understand what the uncore limit of my cpu is since I already noted that mine doesn't do better than 3.8, and I usually run it at 3.6...

    Also, I don't have stability problems with 12 or 18gb. I just have linx gflop problems if I tell it to allocate more than 9gb ram. Again, this is the third time I'm mentioning that to you.

    I feel like I'm at this point when it comes to you.

    and you're missing what i'm trying to get across as i meant earlier that your higher speeds would be difficult to stabilize with the higher amount of memory IE your 18gigs. the lower gflops with 9+gigs shows that there's an instability somewhere otherwise your cpu should be platuing at a certain point and keeping that rate as you go higher in tested mem. you shouldn't be loosing gflops...

    so i just wont help you with MY particular experience in trying to get that issue fixed. your speeds your stable at are with your 6gigs installed, not your 18... and i know that. i was trying to help you with your 18 but it's whatever. sorry for trying to help you get higher gflops... done with you.
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    Does anyone know what the changes are in 1208 yet?

    Also, I am having a OCZ Vertex 3 delivered on Monday, and was wondering what are peoples' advice on ports/drivers to use (I know the Marvell controller is rubbish that's why I'm asking).

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    The bios is supposed to be up on the downloads today! The 10th of April...
    So we should know soon.


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    Cryptik you are going to force me to retire the 12GB kits and open up my 6GB 2000MHZ OCZ Platinum.....
    niccccceeeeeeeeeeee voltage dude.

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