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    Quote Originally Posted by pcwhisperer View Post
    In fact I have the distinct feeling this event will go as first textbook example of catastrophic failure due to catastrophic overconfidence of mankinds technological domination over the sum of dynamics also called planet blue aka earth.
    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler View Post
    I disagree. We've had plenty of other catastrophic technological failures in the past. Katrina and levees shake loose any memories?
    That whas local, the people that lived there where duped, not the whole globe. No matter how empatic people can be, it makes a different impression on the collective conscious.
    Besides there is hardly a connection between leaking levees and leaking nuclear cores.

    Tsjernobyl was sort of globaly threatening, but was easy to point fingers to russian caricatural incompetence and lack of care (at that time).

    Today we consider Japan a very high tech , very disciplined and competent society that do seems to care very much, and are considered experts in dealing with quakes and their surrounding fenomena like tsunamis. But still the safety margins and standards where not high enough because something of this magnitude didden't happen in one honderd+ something years.


    When playing with this kind of destructif power , you look at the real data of what can happen and make honest calculations, then you ad the safety margins, then you look at the pricetag and decide to go for it or not.

    But if you gamble , i call it typical humans catastrophic overconfidence.

    And all around the globe people are glued in awe to the news wondering and praying , not only for the direct victims off this horror, but also how it will affect them in the end.

    Not locally, globally. Collective conscious.

    I'm am pretty sure the negotiations are much more serious now with way more deeper arguments than they ever where. Hence the first.

    EDIT: it is in no way my intention to put blame or shame on the Japanese people for this, i wisch them all the courage they need and will do my thing to help.

    It is more an observation of the general human ways and where it leads to time and time again.

    Out of respect for the people suffering now, i will not make any more responses in this thread about this to people that want to discuss this with me . But i strongly disagree with the semi-hidden pro-nuclear messages ive seen here. Thats what made me respond in the first place.
    Last edited by pcwhisperer; 03-15-2011 at 08:18 PM.
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