Bulldoze that Sandy Bridge

[JF-AMD]

From what i read on many sites and forums amd used same masks for all these products.
It would be pretty good ending of this discussion if you would tell us at which point amd stopped using same masks for desktop and server products.
It would be awesome too if you could share some info on the exact differences between them (hardware wise, not feature wise).Maybe a post on your blog ?

And if this means that AMD is going with different designs/masks with the zambezi/valencia cores, thats very interesting too.Nobody touched on that before.
I bet dresden boy could use such info too.

Remember that for a processor each layer has a mask. So Lisbon and Thuban *could* share several layer masks, they don't share all layer masks. Zambezi and valencia will essentially be the same die, but a.) I cannot verify that and b.) that doesn't mean that they won't vary in the future.

AMD needs to simplify there product; like the way they used too as it would cut their production costs.
Like; dump AM3/AM3+/C32 and move all to a 1207 pin compatible socket for desktop and budget servers.
Then target G34/6* at the server market, rather than using C32 and G34 to target that market.
AMD needs to save money from production as your current setup waists money!

Our current strategy optimizes the money that YOU pay for platforms.

Moving client products to server sockets would significantly increase the cost of client motherboards and not add any additional benefit to customers.

C32 (1207 pins) does not support quad channel memory, only G34 does.

Putting a client processor in a C32 socket would push up the cost of the platform without increasing any features.

Shanghai and barcelona seems to share same core too, RB-C2.So the more prominent differentation is on the hexacores like blazer said.

Barcelona has a 2MB cache and Shanghai has a 6MB cache. Just looking at the dies you can see that they are radically different.