Quote Originally Posted by RaV666 View Post
You have to excuse me and some other people JF.
AMD had a history for some time of using the same dies and architecture for desktop and server parts.
Started with MP, then first hammers.
I had athlon 64 san diego, and later opteron venus, and they were the same.Later x2 4800+ and opteron 165.And they were the same.
From what i read on many sites and forums amd used same masks for all these products.
It would be pretty good ending of this discussion if you would tell us at which point amd stopped using same masks for desktop and server products.
It would be awesome too if you could share some info on the exact differences between them (hardware wise, not feature wise).Maybe a post on your blog ?

And if this means that AMD is going with different designs/masks with the zambezi/valencia cores, thats very interesting too.Nobody touched on that before.
I bet dresden boy could use such info too.
2009 and 45nm, when AMD stopped using the same sockets and CPU's for both server and desktop. There was a lot of internal confusion from 2003 and 2008 regarding server team vs desktop team IIRC and nobody really knew what was going on.

Recently, you will notice that except for the few Suzuka based chips, no Opteron chips are an AM2+/AM3 package.