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  1. 12-12-2010, 01:30 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
    good to know, i thought that the new driver model number was a 10.12 beta version
    Anything not certified by WHQL Is considered "beta" or "RC".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peakr View Post
    AMD's drivers need serious de-bloating. Game demo's, commercial adds, some kind of communication program to send you spam? Are you kidding me? It's almost as bad as the yahoo toolbar.
    If you choose custom installation you can deselect all of that.


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    From what I heard 11.1 should fix VSync - "finally".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peakr View Post
    AMD's drivers need serious de-bloating. Game demo's, commercial adds, some kind of communication program to send you spam? Are you kidding me? It's almost as bad as the yahoo toolbar.
    Right, is a simple driver install too much to ask for, not that its hard to deselect the extras but why bloat the install to begin with.
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    wait for the final version of 10.12 catalyst...
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSAlliN View Post
    From what I heard 11.1 should fix VSync - "finally".
    Getting tired of using D3DOverrider, would be a welcome fix!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Getting tired of using D3DOverrider, would be a welcome fix!
    amen to that! About time!

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peakr View Post
    AMD's drivers need serious de-bloating. Game demo's, commercial adds, some kind of communication program to send you spam? Are you kidding me? It's almost as bad as the yahoo toolbar.
    Agreed.

    Why should I have to deselect that junk? Shouldn't be in there to start with.

    edit: I dont think its "in there", I think it redirects you to download the bits (except the communication opt-in and similar). Not 100% sure as I've always custom installed and deselected the junk. By default thought it should not be installed.
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    AMD Catalyst Control Center Update: Catalyst 10.12 Preview
    http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1050
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    We can apply presets automatically when a certain application is started, nice!
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    Since I couldn't find it mentioned.
    Does this require a newer version of .net or is it fine with what worked for CCC
    I used rt7lite, to remove all the junk in win7 and don't want to waste my time.

    Looks nice though.
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    AMD Previews New Catalyst Control Center Interface - AnandTech
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    CCC 10.12 is up at AMD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    AMD Previews New Catalyst Control Center Interface - AnandTech
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    CCC 10.12 is up at AMD.
    Quote Originally Posted by onethreehill View Post
    AMD Catalyst Control Center Update: Catalyst 10.12 Preview
    http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1050
    thanks, first post updated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz! View Post
    will users on winxp benefit from the new ccc layout as well or is it vista/7 only?
    i guess it's for vista/7 only, since the ccc still looks like crap here on winxp with 10.12? :F
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz! View Post
    i guess it's for vista/7 only, since the ccc still looks like crap here on winxp with 10.12? :F
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    Thumbs up

    This drivers have a bit more performance for benchies = good
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    .Net is for lazy devs... easier to learn but has a bloatware feeling. I don't mind small applications based on .Net, but the GUI for a driver being based on it... well, that's when ATi drivers started to have more problems, yet that didn't stop them using "customers" as "beta testers" - as if it was just an "optional application" not a driver for their product.

    And as long time ATi users know, ATi never gived a damn about their customers opinions, they just plunged in and keep on going with any decision they made... So, don't know what they're trying to prove now. We know they don't care - ATi drivers devs should kiss the ass of those from hardware projects department whom are behind all ATi cards, cause that was their real success... not drivers....
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSAlliN View Post
    .Net is for lazy devs... easier to learn but has a bloatware feeling. I don't mind small applications based on .Net, but the GUI for a driver being based on it... well, that's when ATi drivers started to have more problems, yet that didn't stop them using "customers" as "beta testers" - as if it was just an "optional application" not a driver for their product.

    And as long time ATi users know, ATi never gived a damn about their customers opinions, they just plunged in and keep on going with any decision they made... So, don't know what they're trying to prove now. We know they don't care - ATi drivers devs should kiss the ass of those from hardware projects department whom are behind all ATi cards, cause that was their real success... not drivers....
    the driver is not .net, it would be in c# with c/asm (as its a driver), CCC has a .net xmal gui. xmal is one of the least space taking ways to make a skinned gui.

    since amd made the new GUI it actually looks usable and it dose not have all that drop down crap that the ccc1 v2 had. it also only takes 20MB closed and 77MB loaded (with the transcoder), so its slimed down alot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    the driver is not .net, it would be in c# with c/asm (as its a driver), CCC has a .net xmal gui. xmal is one of the least space taking ways to make a skinned gui.

    since amd made the new GUI it actually looks usable and it dose not have all that drop down crap that the ccc1 v2 had. it also only takes 20MB closed and 77MB loaded (with the transcoder), so its slimed down alot.
    I'm pretty sure there's no way to write the drivers themselves in managed code. They're definitely C(++) based with bits of assembly where needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSAlliN View Post
    I don't mind small applications based on .Net, but the GUI for a driver being based on it... well, that's when ATi drivers started to have more problems
    It's just a GUI, it can't really affect stability...
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    since amd made the new GUI it actually looks usable and it dose not have all that drop down crap that the ccc1 v2 had. it also only takes 20MB closed and 77MB loaded (with the transcoder), so its slimed down alot.
    Oh, I didn't know... That sounds nice. I'm waiting for 11.1 to make the jump, the current implementation smells a bit too unofficial to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    the driver is not .net, it would be in c# with c/asm (as its a driver), CCC has a .net xmal gui. xmal is one of the least space taking ways to make a skinned gui.

    since amd made the new GUI it actually looks usable and it dose not have all that drop down crap that the ccc1 v2 had. it also only takes 20MB closed and 77MB loaded (with the transcoder), so its slimed down alot.
    but the GUI for a driver being based on it...

    It's just a GUI, it can't really affect stability...
    You're joking, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSAlliN View Post
    You're joking, right?
    You can run drivers with no CCC whatsoever and everything will work fine. There you go, GUI eliminated. How did that affect stability again?
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    Actually there is an old alternative called "ATI Tray Tools" - yet even with that there are some problems, but in that case i can't judge the dev - being just 1 person, who really tried something what other that are payed to do that as they job, didn't care...

    Hmm, so you really weren't joking, you didn't knew that a GUI could cause problems...nvm then...
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