AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[Motiv]

"Mansell" & "Hamilton"

Perhaps I'm letting my nationalistic views blur my vision here, but why have they chose UK F1 drivers (old and new), to be code words.

[japamd]

Perhaps I'm letting my nationalistic views blur my vision here, but why have they chose UK F1 drivers (old and new), to be code words.

Fake warning?

[hurleybird]

People have the cards. People have the drivers. What's taking so long?

[eric66]

People have the cards. People have the drivers. What's taking so long?

seriously lack of confidence on amd side nothing more ... nvidia didn't hide anything and did that change their position ? no. they still sell and have bigger slice in gpu market this old secrecy tactic won't work again you can only fool once..

[SimBy]

seriously lack of confidence on amd side nothing more ... nvidia didn't hide anything and did that change their position ? no. they still sell and have bigger slice in gpu market this old secrecy tactic won't work again you can only fool once..

Well nV was completely in the dark twice lately. First HD4000 series, I bet mr. can'o'whoopass spilled his coffee on that one. The second was Eyefinity.

So keeping your mouth shut does have it's advantages.

[Oliverda]

double - delete please

[Oliverda]

Perhaps I'm letting my nationalistic views blur my vision here, but why have they chose UK F1 drivers (old and new), to be code words.

I don't know but AMD likes F1 and sponsors Ferrari as well. For example the Opteron CPUs codenames derived from track names like Shanghai, Istanbul, Magny-Cours, Sao Paulo, etc.

[hurrdurr]

DH says Cayman will be launched on the 8th. It's worded as if it's certain information, and when FX57 does that he's rarely wrong:

http://www.donanimhaber.com/tm.asp?m=45022534

sorry, don't have the time to google translate

[hurrdurr]

DH says Cayman will be launched on the 8th. It's worded as if it's certain information, and when FX57 does that he's rarely wrong:

http://www.donanimhaber.com/tm.asp?m=45022534

sorry, don't have the time to google translate

[MrMojoZ]

seriously lack of confidence on amd side nothing more ...

Because you know anything.

[SKYMTL]

Well its good to know tho that the 6970 looks like it will be the fastest out there. Now the question is.. how much faster?

Sorry, where was this confirmed again?

[SimBy]

Sorry, where was this confirmed again?

A little bird told us.

[zerazax]

Sorry, where was this confirmed again?

Nothing was confirmed, hence the "looks like"

[tbone8ty]

What's the longest thread in xtremesystems history? This mist be getting up there.

[SimBy]

What's the longest thread in xtremesystems history? This mist be getting up there.

Could be the original Fermi one.

[eric66]

Well nV was completely in the dark twice lately. First HD4000 series, I bet mr. can'o'whoopass spilled his coffee on that one. The second was Eyefinity.

So keeping your mouth shut does have it's advantages.

well eyefinity was cool feature but it wasn't game changer one must admit it .. matrox already had it amd took it one step forward so did nvidia with 3d surround ... and i doubt that because of eyefinity amd sold huge amount of gpus or something like that its really minor market... a lot of people can't even buy one decent monitor let alone 3 lol

[eric66]

Could be the original Fermi one.

lol yeah nobody can't beat that it lasted for one year or something thanks to announcements of announcements thing

[Manicdan]

Could be the original Fermi one.

one? im pretty sure there were like 4 prior to its release, followed by 2-3 more after. in total it might have been the longest ever

[SKYMTL]

I can see this happening yet again: rampant speculation leading relatively intelligent people to label a perfectly great card "disappointing" for no reason other than their own inflated expectations being out of touch with reality.

[Leibritz]

Hey,

like HWC

Anyway, speculating gives people something to do while they wait, I don't see any harm done...

[generics_user]

i can see this happening yet again: Rampant speculation leading relatively intelligent people to label a perfectly great card "disappointing" for no reason other than their own inflated expectations being out of touch with reality.

qft

while i love to speculate some people get overhyped doing so and have too high expectations...

[hurrdurr]

I agree.. even a great card like 5870 "disappointed" a lot of people because it was overhyped.

[SKYMTL]

Anyway, speculating gives people something to do while they wait, I don't see any harm done...

Oh, I agree. Speculation by its very nature is fun but problems arise when people base their purchasing decisions on speculations. It also doesn't make any sense to believe in hype and then rant because reality brought things crashing down...

I am not saying this is what's going to happen but people have to remember that massive performance boosts do come with a SIGNIFICANT number of downfalls (die size, power consumption, cost, profit margins, etc) when maintaining a status quo manufacturing process - in this case 40nm.

There isn't a company in this world that could overcome any of these without some kind of miracle product. I am sure we'd all agree that TSMC's 40nm process isn't one that can be refined any more to allow for that kind of genre breaking design revolution.

[jvc]

Somewhere on the internets someone with "good connection" posted in order to dismiss the + 30-40% rumors specs of the card, that performance is in the 580GTX ballpark. Among the specs were "6+6pin"

Only problem is that most probably this is a genuine 6970
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-rade...res/10240.html


Just an observation, don't ask me for links, i've seen this today, but can't find post anymore

[DilTech]

Oh, I agree. Speculation by its very nature is fun but problems arise when people base their purchasing decisions on speculations. It also doesn't make any sense to believe in hype and then rant because reality brought things crashing down...

I am not saying this is what's going to happen but people have to remember that massive performance boosts do come with a SIGNIFICANT number of downfalls (die size, power consumption, cost, profit margins, etc) when maintaining a status quo manufacturing process - in this case 40nm.

There isn't a company in this world that could overcome any of these without some kind of miracle product. I am sure we'd all agree that TSMC's 40nm process isn't one that can be refined any more to allow for that kind of genre breaking design revolution.

Exactly what I was thinking as well...

I'm looking at it like this; either it'll beat the GTX580 and cost the same or more($499 price bracket), it'll lose to the GTX580 but be faster than the 570 and hit the $399 bracket, or it'll lose to the GTX570 and hit the $349 bracket. Considering this is AMD's biggest chip since the R600, I heavily doubt AMD could get by with it if it loses to the GTX570, but at the same time I'm not expecting it to take down the GTX580(if it could, I don't see why AMD would be aiming for the 6990 so quickly after), so I'm anticipating it to be around GTX 570 performance and between $399 and $449.

If I'm wrong, then happy day, if I'm not I won't be disappointed. This is just how things appear to me pre-release. Personally, I'm actually more interested right now in the fight between the GTX570 and the 6950 assuming they end up in the same price bracket. One of those two cards are very likely to end up in my system shortly after release.