AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[Iconyu]

people usually push their limits when it comes to Christmas presents so i don't see any reason why 500 can't be spend once in a year

You got it wrong, it's a high end piece it'll sell regardless of the time of year. Worst case scenario, retailers don't get to ship all their orders before new years.

[zerazax]

Regarding eye strain:

Permanent eye damage can occur from your eye constantly refocusing / under strain.

In fact, that's how near and far sightedness starts often: eye muscle strain / weakness ends up affect eyesight. Those of us who have had eye surgery also know from the doctors not to do things that strain our eyes for the first year, since it can hamper recovery.

That's why I tend to stay away from 3D stuff anyways... most of it my eyes can pick up the fact it's not, so I noticeably feel eye strain after watching something for a few hours.

Regarding Christmas availability:

Honestly, a $350++ video card is such a niche product that buyers aren't waiting for Christmas. Both sides have launched cards at random times (the 8800GT and Cypress were all launched during non-holidays and sold like hotcakes) and haven't been hampered. Christmas is when your lower end cards are most likely to be moved - enthusiast grade cards are called enthusiast because that's who the buyers are. They ain't waiting for Santa

[cegras]

idd, virtual reality headsets were a completely different approach of stereoscopic 3d.

i fail to see why shutter/polarization glasses should be dangerous.

The main point is that your left and right eyes are focusing on slightly offset images for each eye.

[Dalten]

The main point is that your left and right eyes are focusing on slightly offset images for each eye.

Your point being?

[STEvil]

Your point being?

protip: this causes eyestrain.

[tajoh111]

Your point being?

Lots of things cause eyestrain, from watching tv or movies in the dark to sitting to close to your television. Heck some CRT monitors too. If this was as dangerous as a couple people on hear are making out to be, there would be crazy amounts of lawsuits and more evidence against it.

The 3d is bad for you really didn't appear on this board until AMD version was shown to be buggy and full of errors. Nvidia version is too don't get me wrong, but AMD's is completely broken.

[zerazax]

3d is bad has always been around, it's just not a big issue since it was pretty niche

And it is bad for you, lawsuits etc. don't matter - it's your fault for using it, after all. And doctors do warn people about eyestrain, but as we all know, most people don't care until it's too late

[zerazax]

3d is bad has always been around, it's just not a big issue since it was pretty niche

And it is bad for you, lawsuits etc. don't matter - it's your fault for using it, after all. And doctors do warn people about eyestrain, but as we all know, most people don't care until it's too late

[cegras]

Your point being?

Have you ever crossed your eyes?

[Solus Corvus]

Yeah, I stabbed out one of my eyes so I wouldn't have to endure the strain of seeing the world from two separate angles all the time. Binocular vision is overrated, yarrr.

[Sn0wm@n]

are you talking about shutter glasses or polarization glasses in general? the former suffers from flickering so that's probably the reason for your headache.



lol... how would you get cross-eyed by using polarization or shutter glasses? you're not even crossing your eyes with these.

eee show me a model of both because i dont really know ...

[Muunsyr]

The issue with either shutter or polarised glasses is not so much that you are seeing two slightly different images (this is how our eyes work after all), but rather that it tricks our eyes into trying to focus on something where it is not. Hence, by looking at '3D' images all day, we are possibly training our brains/eyes to focus on a plane located in a different position to where we perceive the object we are looking at. This is why so many people get headaches or just more worn out while watching 3D movies (rather than regular 2D).

For example, you load up your favourite game (now in three-dee!!!) and see a zombie rushing at you. It was at first 5 meters from you, then 3 and then OMG! it is right there licking the sweat from behind your ears. It seemed so real that you thought you had caught the infection. Your head even began to hurt. Ow. The reason was the zombie was never 5 meters away, it was half a meter at all times. Your brain 'saw' it at 5 meters, told your eyes to focus at five meters and discovered things got blurrier. So your eyes refocused at half a meter. But then you realise that the zombie is at 3 meters and so you try to focus at 3 meters...etc, etc, etc.

If people don't get some form of eye damage from sitting in front of a 3D settup for long periods of time I will be surprised. Not interested in it until health concerns and comfort are addressed.

[Boissez]

The last 10-15 posts...

I didn't know there were so many part time ophthalmologists here on XS

[Manicdan]

I didn't know there were so many part time ophthalmologists here on XS

i keep looking in here for more rumors, youd think that every day going past we would have more "news worthy" speculation. instead its a battle of 3D vs eye cancer.

[Heinz68]

First samples? Shouldn't they already be stockpiling the cards?

First samples sounds like a paper launch in three weeks.

Looks like we have another Charlie here. Strange he is always so much critical of the other Charlie.

Lots of things cause eyestrain, from watching tv or movies in the dark to sitting to close to your television. Heck some CRT monitors too. If this was as dangerous as a couple people on hear are making out to be, there would be crazy amounts of lawsuits and more evidence against it.

The 3d is bad for you really didn't appear on this board until AMD version was shown to be buggy and full of errors. Nvidia version is too don't get me wrong, but AMD's is completely broken.

I believe except you people were talking about 3d in general. It's OK but what is strange, you're the one always talking so much about fanboyism.

[Nintendork]

i keep looking in here for more rumors, youd think that every day going past we would have more "news worthy" speculation. instead its a battle of 3D vs eye cancer.

It's more like: AMD GPU's support 3D, now 3D is bad. Something between those.

[tajoh111]

Looks like we have another Charlie here. Strange he is always so much critical of the other Charlie.


I believe except you people were talking about 3d in general. It's OK but what is strange, you're the one always talking so much about fanboyism.

Don't turn this into a trolling fest with personal attacks. Charlie would be spouting hate about AMD/Nvidia and getting happiness out of this delay. I am just making a pretty normal comment about first samples being sent now. Compare this to charlie who says nvidia has no cards, they are lying to shareholders, all they can do is spin spin spin, etc. I hold Charlie a lot more accountable and we should too because he is a journalist and getting paid via advertisements to run his website. If your going to say something negative about a company the way he does it, you better be darn right.

I am not getting joy out of this delay and I would rather the card came sooner than later.

I think the reason 3d was mentioned in the first place was to bring down a strength of Nvidia cards, over AMD cards. I simply asked for real evidence which is fair when i provided evidence in my original post.

Seriously leave the personal attacks out.

[herderien]

please stop the "3D influence on eye sickness" fight here, start another thread somewhere else (maybe doctor online ^^ )

[kadozer]

According to latest news from Napoleon at Chiphell 6970 new release date is December 7.


http://translate.google.com/translat...al%26prmd%3Dfd

[Chumbucket843]

who launches a graphics card on pearl harbor day? honestly!

[Pantsu]

who launches a graphics card on pearl harbor day? honestly!

Wasn't the Evergreen launch done on an aircraft carrier?

[hurrdurr]

HD6970 to compete with GTX 570, not 580

http://www.donanimhaber.com/tm.asp?m=44558753

http://translate.google.com/translat...3Fm%3D44558753

[herderien]

HD6970 to compete with GTX 570, not 580

http://www.donanimhaber.com/tm.asp?m=44558753

http://translate.google.com/translat...3Fm%3D44558753

damn...i sense a little disapointment coming...of course it will depend on the price ^^

[hurrdurr]

Older rumors had "6950 trading blows with 580"... newer rumors have "6970 trading blows with 570"

[eXa]

Well stop with the rumors then, i dont want the 6970 trading blows with 480....