It seems so.Originally Posted by Olivon
Really ?
Partners claim they have not been well updated on the cards, nvidia suddenly starts selling them instead.
Pic for proof. Only available via nvidia's own channel? It comes across as such, at least for the immediate future.
It looks like is taking orders to deliver Monday
No novatech stock, scan, aria, newegg?
New subject for Charlie ?
Seriously, let's wait for launch and see what's what. My money is still on cards being available by year end...contrary to what Charlie says.Really ?
Plus, if you ask ANY board partner about this card, they will plead the fifth. Why? Well, because they are under a very strict NDA due to all the leaks that happened with past launches.
Who knows?
Maybe they'll restrict supply to nvidia channels only for a month or so until they have more stock.
It's one way of paper launching to reap the gouging profits of initial release without paying a middleman partner profits or letting webstores also profit.
Nvidia keeps a £399 (that's 645 dollars by the way) price until it's SMASHED down by AMD and then partners have the floodgates unleashed.
maybe
Maybe...
Middleman? Partner? What are you on about?
NVIDIA's board partners continue to be the only ones selling directly into the retail / supply channel. Past a specific promotion where Best Buy ASKED for NVIDIA-branded cards, you won't see anything but partners' cards being boxed up and shipped into the channel.
So Nvidia might be selling these directly for the first bit instead of through partners?
If that's true, then Charlies information (board partners not having cards) may be spot on, while his claim about there being no cards may be dead wrong.
That's what I love about SA. They seem to have better sources than anyone else, but their commentary is always produced through a Nvidia-will-fail-reality-distortion-field. It makes for an incredibly fun read, and you can even glean some information when you take Charlie's blatant bias into account.
Except for in the picture I just posted proving this wrong. You know, the one where nvidia brands and boxes the cards themselves and screw the partners.
Partners might get token cards but will be blueballed on actual quantitative supply until nvidia has farmed the initial release cheese from their own sales initiative.
What I'm "on about" (go learn business pronto) Is a thing called profiteering.
People don't work for free and there is a ponzi chain of business profit all the way from factory to shop floor.
Nvidia designs cards, sells them for x money.
Partner creates/receives then supplies money for x money + pp (partner profit)
Web store or real world store receives card stock from partner and sells it for x + pp + sp (store profit)
Stop trolling about such obvious things as middlmen. EVERYONE knows this basic stuff.
Nvidia blueball their partners, get initial gouged sales price with TWO LEVELS of the profiteering removed.
Last edited by Jowy Atreides; 11-07-2010 at 03:05 PM.
Is that ad legit? One thing I did notice is that there is no partner branding on that ad, just nvidia. So I would assume that whatever card is coming would come directly from their warehouse.
Last edited by Eastcoasthandle; 11-07-2010 at 03:04 PM.
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See HC?
He gets it.
From how many cards charlie is saying is available, he saying thousands of cards and not tens of thousands. Even if each card was sold at 1 thousand dollars and they had 10,000 card to share, both of which is inflated according to what charlie has said to illustrate a point, they would only make 10 million dollars which is petty cash for a company with 900 million dollar quarters.
There would be no point and would just piss off the partners.
This is the gtx 580 thread and you have done nothing but troll in this thread.
Last edited by tajoh111; 11-07-2010 at 03:09 PM.
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What's HC
Another thing is the heat sink design is similar to the 480. I thought the design was a bit different than that?
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Good point, it would only make sense if Nvidia wanted to go down this route permanently and with other product launches, maybe this is only another 'test'.
You have to remember something... they have a shareholder call coming up in a few days. They need this out to please the shareholders, regardless of quantity #'s. It's easy to say "we have the fastest DX11 GPU out there" and "we're still innovating" if you can produce something like this, even if it isn't big on the market
well one possible theory is that they are aware that if they sell it directly enthusiast consumers will buy at a better price that if you bought from retailers or partners. I do not think they are doing to piss off partners, but to make enthusiast consumers happyGood point, it would only make sense if Nvidia wanted to go down this route permanently and with other product launches, maybe this is only another 'test'
Yes. It is legit.
http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/item-detai...cts_id=4370723
It looks like is taking orders to deliver Monday
Original source: http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/item-detai...cts_id=4370723 it's not nVidia direct.
So what are nVidia going to do (according to jowy)? Release the card at an inflated MSRP to satisfy their own profit margin*, sell a few bundles for launch day then announce a price cut in a few weeks for when the partners are being supplied?
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Sometimes, it's not your time. Sometimes, you have to make it your time. Sometimes, it can ONLY be your time.
I thinks that's a little naive. I wouldn't happy if I was an Nvidia partner...
Can somebody explain why a yoyotech link is proof that nVidia is selling direct?
£399 is a good price for this card. Cheapest 480 is £310, some 480 are way above £399. Although I was expecting £349.
I would not consider it as a proof.
wow. do you understand the logistics of distribution and retail? it's in nvidia's best interest leave it to someone else. the reason why middlemen exist in the first place is to save the manufacturers money. the only tangible thing the AIB's do is put a sticker on the card, excluding custom cards. everything else is a service such as warranties, customer support, etc. yes, nvidia does that for quadro but that's a very different market where clients demand higher quality services such as custom drivers and 24hr support.
oh and just a question: why are you ranting about nvidia profiteering and not the AIB's? you blame nvidia for cutting them off yet you are ok with them profiteering throughout your arguments.who is allowed to profiteer?
I don't think it does at all, it just indicates that the particular vendor is drop-shipping them.
yes, but you ain't a partner...
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