Quote Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides View Post
From 1120 5d in barts to 1920 4d vliw tweaked in cayman alone is a 71% increase.
Factor in the ipc improvement, the much larger framebuffer, the new offload tesselation engine and you have a very feasible 80% bump in speed.

Edit: Don't forget the clockspeed being 860Mhz compared to the 725Mhz of Barts xt.

Think about the logical evidence of the architectural changes shown above and you'll most likely conclude like myself, that the 580 is NOT going to be serious competition.

how come people dont ask you what you smoke when saying such things?

If it beats the 580, it be a good thing due to 40nm, and we cant expect miracles even with the 4d set of shaders.
Overclocking it to 1ghz+ however might turn it into a great card.
If r300 rumours are true, then it has to beat the 480gtx by around 80%
as that was what the 9700 did back in the day.(not going there not even whatever I might smoke)

That depends how AMD did reason when they saw what fermi did, and thought, Gee, the upgrade Nvidia are going to do at 28nm gonna be something, so they did their homewerk and produced a slightly bigger chip to crown the single card performance planned at 32nm but adjusted to 40nm which they might cut things out that wasnt needed this time until 28nm.

The size of the card seen as far suggest a powerhungry one.
See, Nvidia knows it, more power, more speed and more performance and forget to save the whales, we let the oceans boil.