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i love those benches not starting from 0
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yup every-time a new GPU is about to come out from either manufacturer we get a good case of fail graphs. makes me laugh...Originally Posted by herderien
i love those benches not starting from 0
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15% less power?
25% is the minimum difference on that graph.. And I dont think we can conclude anything about its TDP from that slide...
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Looks like the PR is in full force
Maybe I'm too dense mathematically to "get" those graphs (and yea, I know they don't start at 0), but they seem to indicate that the 580 will pretty much suck...
It's not like the GTX 480 is so blazingly fast that a card ~12% faster or so is going to be mindblowing. You could overclock a 480 and get that...
Not very big gains from the 480.
The 580 is going to get whipped big time. This should be a launch for the fanboy almanac, thought the 4870 caned the price of nvidia?
Think again.
Just more confirmation for the 15-20% with slightly less power consumption. All in all pretty much what GF100 was supposed to be. But if Cayman doesn't fail like R600 I'm not sure if this is good enough. Of course they can always drop prices, and I'm all for a good price war.
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Yeah, I prefer nvidia's drivers, but I may end up with a Radeon 6970 or two if this pans out as it appears to be. Looks to be sliding in ATI/AMD's direction for the 580 vs. 6970 battle on both price and performance.Just more confirmation for the 15-20% with slightly less power consumption. All in all pretty much what GF100 was supposed to be. But if Cayman doesn't fail like R600 I'm not sure if this is good enough. Of course they can always drop prices, and I'm all for a good price war.
the graph is perf per watt
so if perf of 480 is 100, and power is 100
then the 580 would be perf of 115 for power of 85 resulting in
(115/85)/(100/100) =
135/100 = 135
=35% better perf per what, which is almost exactly what i was saying.
so because we know perf per watt, and perf, we can find the watt by doing simple algebra. (which i didnt do lol)
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Even then.. Its lower than 15% by doing the algebra :X
If you use stalker as comparison base (credit to DarthShader at Beyond3D forum), you get around 92% TDP of GTX480 -.-
Imagine stalker on GTX480 runs at 60fps.
17% higher perf would be 70,2
You know TDP of GTX480 is 250.
60/250 = 0,24.
0,24+(0,24*0,27) = 0,3048.
70,2/0,3048 = 230 TDP.
230/250 = 0,92.
nVIDIA must be insane to launch this card at those prices. What the hell are they thinking?
Do what they did with GTX 280... sell it high for all the fanboys to snatch up 1/2/3 of em and then lower prices a few weeks later
nVIDIA must be insane to launch this card at those prices. What the hell are they thinking?
Like said before, it's cool to achieve 15% performance gains with 10w lower TDP...
but with [its rumored prices + Cayman XT and Pro's rumored performances + Cayman XT and Pro's rumored prices] it indeed looks like it's going to be a slaughter in favor of AMD.
Well the situation cant really be compared. With GTX280 they were on top, and ATI menace didnt seem strong. This time they had problems with GF100, GF110 seems to be just a small fix, and ATI, now AMD, is a big threat.
Or you could wait for Nvidia to lower it's pricing, trouble is though that after you buy them they probably will continue to lower their pricing like the rest of the 400 series.
Your 470's value have lost a big chunk of change since release...
Sure, I could wait, but why would I if the 6970 turns out to be a beast and at a much lower cost anyway? I'm intrigued by the MLAA feature as well, and the longer I wait the more value my 470's would lose after these new launches in any case, so I wouldn't gain much by waiting
Whats really puzzling is abnormally high performance increase in Vantage , yet it doesn't translate to real world gameswhat made it jump almost 40% over regular GTX 480.
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I don't even know what these graphs are showing....
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that they're about to get raped by Antilles????
Yea. They're going to get beat by Cayman, and "raped" by Antilles.
So, for a second year in a row, Nvidia may be competing in a price war as opposed to a performance war. This also means that AMD/ATI's current architecture is maturing very nicely and is supposedly going to be not only more powerful than Fermi, but will also consume less power for equivalent performance to Nvidia's chips.
This is a great time for GPU enthusiasts. All DX11 cards (excluding the 5970 and maybe Antilles) are looking to be some of the cheapest GPU parts in years. The Radeon 6800 series and GTX 460 are both proof positive of this.
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humm I was thinking of holding onto my last 5970.... if Antilles delivers I smell one heck of a x-mas present coming on... and maybe a couple more monitors.... 5 monitor eyefinity?
Let's play wait & see, shall we ? IMHO, for a "minor" refresh chip, i think this card offers a decent improvement. Regarding value, let's see what AMD can bring to the table first before making any firm judgement.
Wow, i've been an apologist for Fermi in the past few days, that has to be a record.
BTW, i think AMD want to be behind this time so they can make sure that the presentation slide graphs will contain an official performance result of GTX 580, if Cayman turns out to be as good as promised, this can really show them in a very good light among enthusiasts.
Last edited by spursindonesia; 11-04-2010 at 05:30 PM.
only noted so long you say it in BahasaWow, i've been an apologist for Fermi in the past few days, that has to be a record.
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