Quote Originally Posted by Sam_oslo View Post
I think 580 is real, because I've seen the 580 on the driver-list for developers. But nothing is that real that you are indicating before you can buy if from shops. Sometimes they have paper-launch too, but all these applies to Cayman too. But I think both are real.
But Cayman is into reality. We know it's coming, and based on how good Barts is, we definitely know that it's going to be a good card. We've seen some specs on Cayman from official AMD briefing slides; Cayman is as real as you and me, and we are pretty sure of what to expect.

The GTX 580, however, is nothing but a smoke shield until we get some hard info from Nvidia or one of their partners.