Quote Originally Posted by highoctane View Post
My first guess for one is they have to divide and prioritize their resources into finishing and releasing the entire product lineup first, top end is not the largest source of revenue and volume after all.

I'm sure Nvidia has produced plenty of ES respins in house for validation, they'll release to the public when the time is right for them which we should all hope will be soon.

I doubt it has anything to do with fab problems, the availability of current gf100 based units alone should be a testament to that.


fab problem to create a full card werent enough ???? i know GF100 isnt the bread and butter of a generation ... but amd and intel are moving into that market very fast with fusion products ....

so what does that leave nvidia with ???? overly big chip to try and maintain market share to repay fab cost and R&D .. while amd enjoyed 1 year with their dx11 lineup so they had lots of time to milk the cow ...




Quote Originally Posted by spursindonesia View Post
I'm plenty optimist & positive regarding AMD graphic, but your expectation is the one that can be called dreaming mate, no offense.

Especially if Cayman is THAT good, i won't expect it to be priced lower than HD 5870 launch MSRP, beetween US$ 429-469 most likely. I believe it won't be priced north of US$ 499 limit (that will create a very bad buzz among consumers, reduces the goodwill built up to this point, and put a squeeze on Antilles pricing strategy), put my posting right on the line, but AMD can use more profit if the card warranted its price.

As good as Cayman would be, i can't believe it would be clearly twice faster on average than Bart in real gaming. Bart's street prices are gonna decrease by the time Cayman got launched, it has to be factored as input in Cayman pricing decision IMHO.

Antilles ? Now we're talking, this is the big gun, undisputed king of the hill (unlike HD 5970 which was disputed by nVidia fanbois using minimum frame rate, microstuttering, etc argument). AMD has more leeway in its pricing strategy, as flagship product that caters to limited segment, the price sensitivity of its potential buyers would be low, and it won't generate a bad buzz even if the performance doesn't really warrant the price tag slapped on it. I expect MSRP beetween US$ 729-799, perhaps even more if the supply is rather limited because of Cayman high sales rate & the demand is relatively aplenty. Company still loves profit, you know.

so what are they going to fill the pricing with ... the gap from 250$ to 350$ might be filled by cayman pro .. but cayman xt would go from 350 to 500 ????



and antilles would automaticly go into the 1000$ if its that good ....