Nvidia confirms the GTX 580

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If NV should learn from AMD anything, it is that they should make test cards to learn from processes(4770) or find optimal configurations(5830)..

agreed ... nvidia should have had a decent sized test vehicule ..

To me, this might mean playing on 40nm a bit more so they are more prepared to make a good 28nm card off the bat or atleast increase their chances to do so. NV could learn a thing or two from AMD how to get launches on time and slowly transition changes(e.g direct 10.1, tesselator), rather than try to brute force everything at once to get mixed results.
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exactly .. they need to transition slowly .. but i think its upper management that is pushing the engineer into something harder to do each generation ...

Pricing on the gtx 580 is supposed to be the same as the gtx 480. This is another reason why I think cayman xt is going to be priced like 500 dollars because I think they are invading fermi's pricing space, along with the new name and the pricing of the 5870(its going to be more expensive than this).

if a dual 460 aka gtx580 is priced at 500$ it doesnt mean amd will follow suit ... cayman could beat it or simply come close by 5% or so and leave the killing blow to antilles for the 500$ or so gpu pricing crown ....


that's why i think cayman doesnt need to be priced at 500$ to competitione nvidia's current offering


and all of that leave cayman pro ... and xt around the 300$ or so msrp ... and antilles at a 400 - 500$ msrp