NVIDIA to Counter Radeon HD 6970 ''Cayman'' with GeForce GTX 580

[zanzabar]

You're .... sick of the GTX480?

how long dose a card stay entertaining (not how long dose it stay good), it only takes like a week if that to max out a graphics card and if u want a new toy u want a new toy.

[saaya]

so amd is reducing cost and power, and nvidias reply to that is to offer a hotter, more expensive part?
too bad, i had hoped gf110/gf102 would be more than 512sps at least...

[Neova]

I hope nvidia gets the 512 cuda core 485 GTX or 580 or whatever its going to be named lined up for launch soon. Been happy with my 465 but I'm hitting video ram with my modded games and SLI won't help me. Would be a nice xmas upgrade for myself.

[kuroikenshi]

DID I JUST HEAR FULL GF104?????


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[Kingcarcas]

Man it seems like new video cards every month now

[zalbard]

512 bit 768 core @40 nm?

nvidia going for a one chip per wafer strategy?

On a serious note, though, if they can manage such a ship it's going to be pretty damn insane.
I still think it is just a dual card, though...

[kuroikenshi]

nah the die size is going to be as pictured above.... larger than life...LITERALLY..

[Olivon]

If you read the 4Gamer article, seems like GF119 is the next ION chip.

[Lanek]

On a serious note, though, if they can manage such a ship it's going to be pretty damn insane.
I still think it is just a dual card, though...

or kepler in 28nm lol .... but yes 40nm is just impossible with this specs...

[buccaneer]

Based on the discussions here I got myself a 5970 last fryday to replace my 2 x 260 gtx. was going to go for the 480 at first but hear too much negative.
The card is fantastic. runs quite and stays cool. (moderate load)

[Sn0wm@n]

I hope nvidia gets the 512 cuda core 485 GTX or 580 or whatever its going to be named lined up for launch soon. Been happy with my 465 but I'm hitting video ram with my modded games and SLI won't help me. Would be a nice xmas upgrade for myself.

it wont happen by christmas or whatever ....

If you read the 4Gamer article, seems like GF119 is the next ION chip.

really ??? with the same die space as a gt430 or so ???? id prefer it if they call it gt420 .... id buy it only for the name

[Hey Zeus]

Whats the holdup on the full GF104 GTX 475 and the dual GF104 495?

[Sam_oslo]

I don't get why AMD has reduced the performance with HD68xx. They have given nVidia a real chance to take on now.

nVidia doesn't need a GTX 580 now. All they need is a full 384 SP GF104, and a double-GPU with the same chip, with a competitive price. They should also drop the price of GTX 460. Then thay can make the life realy hard for AMD.

[Nintendork]

The low yields, simple as that.

I think nvidia is still playing the "we need to maintin our marketshare" (they lost marketshare in reality)

[foch3 -USA-]

WTF! Barts is midrange, Cayman is the product a GTX580 would have to contend with.

[iMacmatician]

Whats the holdup on the full GF104 GTX 475 and the dual GF104 495?

I wonder if they replaced the 475 with GF112 and the 495 with GF110.

[informal]

I don't get why AMD has reduced the performance with HD68xx. They have given nVidia a real chance to take on now.

nVidia doesn't need a GTX 580 now. All they need is a full 384 SP GF104, and a double-GPU with the same chip, with a competitive price. They should also drop the price of GTX 460. Then thay can make the life realy hard for AMD.

You are thinking that 68xx is high end part?
Barts(HD6800) is performance part that will replace 5800 series,having similar performance. Cayman is the high end part,featuring 1900+ SP (unknown exact number as of now) and this thing will destroy any GF100 based card out there,even the 512 CUDA cores parts if they ever launch. Then,there comes the dual Cayman card,the ultimate crusher,waiting to destroy any potential dual GF100 card ,if that thing ever sees a light of the day.

[highoctane]

really ??? with the same die space as a gt430 or so ???? id prefer it if they call it gt420 .... id buy it only for the name

Die space isn't the only factor, reducing the bus width also reduces the amount of ram chips needed per unit and at entry level saving say $.50 per unit is huge with volume.

[Sam_oslo]

You are thinking that 68xx is high end part?
Barts(HD6800) is performance part that will replace 5800 series,having similar performance. Cayman is the high end part,featuring 1900+ SP (unknown exact number as of now) and this thing will destroy any GF100 based card out there,even the 512 CUDA cores parts if they ever launch. Then,there comes the dual Cayman card,the ultimate crusher,waiting to destroy any potential dual GF100 card ,if that thing ever sees a light of the day.

Oh I see, they have messed up the naming schema?. I thought they had tow single-GPU and a double GPU, the same as last rounds. But it's good to hear they are releasing a high-end card too. It's good for competition and prices.

When this Cayman is going to show up?

[Hey Zeus]

and this thing will destroy any GF100 based card out there

I'd wait and see for some official reviews there tiger before making that claim.

[GoldenTiger]

I'd wait and see for some official reviews there tiger before making that claim.

Ha, yeaaahhhhhh.

[Jowy Atreides]

DID I JUST HEAR FULL GF104?????


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OH MAN!
Best so far and there's like 100 of these shoops.

I like how this thread has so many replies yet any counterpart would logically be very far away from the 6 series launch. So much optimism.

[informal]

I'd wait and see for some official reviews there tiger before making that claim.

GTX480 is ~15% faster than 5870 today.Stream processor efficiency has been upped by quite a bit with NI generation(1120SP in BartsXT parts will almost be equal to 1600SP in Cypress-so lets say that "IPC" will go up by a decent 20%,not massive 42% as the SP count difference first shows).We will have ~1920SP with Cayman,each of which will be faster per clock than Evergreen class SP.Clock speeds are unknown for Cayman,but let's assume similar clock speed as 5870. On the conservative side,Cayman based 69xx will be ~45%(1.2 for the IPC x 1.2 for the SP count increase) faster than 5870.This alone is enough for it to crush any GF100 based single GPU card.

[Manicdan]

45% faster than a 5870 is horribly close to 5970

sounds like one beastly improvement on the same node. AMD/ATI really do know how to do magic things with their 45 and 40nm parts

[Sam_oslo]

OH MAN!
Best so far and there's like 100 of these shoops.

I like how this thread has so many replies yet any counterpart would logically be very far away from the 6 series launch. So much optimism.

Why would you have anything against such a optimism? We all should be happy if nVidia can do "something" to counter these GPUs, and push the prices down.

Why don't you like to keep the optimism for a good competition? Do you like to pay extra high prices in this round too?