The Obsidian 800D thread :D

[lonkny]

Petrucci, very nice build. What fans are those w/the white blades? I'm doing a similar build, but using all white fans instead, like these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835427006

Are they these NZXT fans? How are they as far as Air Flow vs. Noise?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835146002

[triggs75]

Very clean set up and nice color combo.

Chad

[framesX2X]

Nice

[Petrucci_M3]

Petrucci, very nice build. What fans are those w/the white blades? I'm doing a similar build, but using all white fans instead, like these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835427006

Are they these NZXT fans? How are they as far as Air Flow vs. Noise?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835146002

Thanks man! All the white fans in my case are all the stock Corsair case fans painted, except the three white fans on my RAD which are the Nexus ones Newegg sells. They're the low end silent ones, I'll see if I can dig up the link to the exact ones.

Very clean set up and nice color combo.

Chad

Thank you!

[WCRF]

[Church]

WCRF: I don't get why you need that 90deg fitting to the right of SLI bridge? Isn't it simplier to attach that tube from bottom of bridge aswell?

[WCRF]

WCRF: I don't get why you need that 90deg fitting to the right of SLI bridge? Isn't it simplier to attach that tube from bottom of bridge aswell?

I needed it to kill the bubbles, couldn't do it with the tubes attached from bottom.

[M_T_M]

For some time left open reservoir

[Bertross]

Hey guys its been a while since ive posted. Im picking up my 800D tonight, Not going WC at this stage though. Ive seen some of you are mounting a 120mm fan to the lower section to cool the HDDs, is it a simple as screwing it in the section or do i need to make some holes?

Also im abit worried about cooling my GPUs/CPU at this stage ive from what ive seen the air flow is a bit average in this case as the air flow is not typical front intake. I was thinking of reversing the rear fan and bring in 2 bottom fans for intake then 3 top fans for exit. Sound ok?

[Deathspine]

The fan to the hard drives has pre drilled holes and the kit comes with the screws for the fan.

[Devil_Dog]

Sorry for the bad pics. I'll update with better ones later.

[Deathspine]

Nice work Devil Dog, single or dual loops? What kind of temperatures are you getting with that rig?

[Church]

While as usualy lurking arround moding/LC shops for new product additions stumbled upon rather interesting one - 700D premodified with different back wall and motherboard tray from mountainmods to fit 10slot SR-2/UD9 motherboards in it. In description they mentioned soon to be released similarly premoded 800D. Price of $700 is insane though.

[Bertross]

Here is my basic build, not into water cooling or modding anymore, its just about gaming now Getting a CPU cooler soon i just sold my H50.

[mlee49]

$1000 in gpu's and using a 10¢ cpu cooler :p kidding, what'cha got planned?

[turtletrax]

Working on my 800D for the past couple days.

She's made of...

R2E, i7 950, 3x2GB Cas 7 2000 Dominator GT's, 2 XFX 5870, 3x30GB Vertex, 2TB Caviar Black, HX1000,

Some preliminary pics









Then I decided to swap fan placement to top of rad



Pic before tubing.





Really trying to get my tubing run figured as I will not be doing separate loops. Never done a single loop with two rads and double pump

Any great ideas for loop order?

Just noticed in the pictures both my Rads have dents WTH??

[Billy-The-Kid]

I have one of these girls and I liked it enough to see what they have done

[lonkny]

Really trying to get my tubing run figured as I will not be doing separate loops. Never done a single loop with two rads and double pump

Really nice - this looks awesome. Love how you have it going from the EK SLI/CF bridge straight into the pump. Did you go with the Parallel or Serial bridge, and how did you make your choice? Currently I have just one Radeon 5850 but if I ever got another I would definitely get one of these bridges... just wasn't sure what the consensus is on which type is better - Parallel vs. Serial...

Is it OK to have the 2 pumps separated like that in one loop? I would be worried about one burning out the other... I also switched my WC setup from 2 loops to 1 - went with the EK v2 dual ddc top:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=27148

I was a bit worried about burnout issues, so will see how it goes... should be doing leak testing today. Also I (wrongly) assumed it would sit underneath the motherboard (Rampage III Extreme) so the reservoir and all would be up against the back wall, but as you can see the board is about half inch too low once mounted (ARGH!!!), so I had to mount the pumps & res in the middle (used screws & cap nuts along w/the fan grill heheheh)... since the pump top isn't reversible, this was really the only position available for me (unless anyone has any ideas)...

Here's some preliminary pics w/no lighting, water (waiting for mayhem's dye & killcoil), RAM cooler, etc. yet... the tube going to the top of the res terminates at a fill port at the top of the case:









Hardware:
Case: Corsair Obsidian 800D
Motherboard: Asus Rampage III Extreme
Processor: Intel Core i7 930
Memory: 3x2GB GSkill Pi Series PC3-16000
Video: XFX Radeon HD 5850 "XXX Edition"
System Drive: OCZ Vertex 2E 60GB OCZ Vertex 2 Sandforce Chipset
Data Drives: 2x500GB Seagate RAID1, 2x1.5TB WD Black RAID1, 1xOCZ Colossus OCZSSD2-1CLS250G 3.5" 250GB, 1xWD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s
Optical Drives: LG BluRay Burner, Asus DVD/RW
Sound: Auzentech Forte 7.1 PCI-e
Expansion Cards: Asus U3S6 USB3.0 & SATA6Gb/s PCI-e, Promise FastTrak TX2300 PCI RAID Controller, Rosewill JMicron Chipset PCI-e RAID Controller
Display: Matrix Orbital LK-204-7T-1U-USB-TCI Tri Color 20x4 Character Display
Bay Device: Akasa All In One 2 Control Panel (used for ports only, not fan/temp control)
Pump/Fan/Thermal Power & Control: MCubed BigNG w/Analog Sensor Hub

Water Cooling:
Res1: EK Multioption 250 w/Multifunction Link connected to
Pump Top: EK-DDC Dual TOP V2 - White Acetal
Pumps: 2xSwiftech MCP355
Rad1: Swiftech MCR320 w/3 Zaward 120mm ZG2-120A "Golf" fans push & 3 Scythe Slipstream SY1225SL12SH pull
Rad2: Black Ice SR1 140mm Low Flow w/Zaward 140mm "Golf" fan push & Corsair 140mm fan pull
Board block: EK-FB RE3 Rampage III Extreme full board block
CPU: EK Supreme HF - Nickel/Red Plexi
VGA: EK FC-5850 w/RAM Backplate

Misc:
Fill Port: Danger Den Black Aluminum
Tubing: Feser UV White 1/2" ID 3/4" OD, Feser UV Red 1/2" ID 3/4" OD
Flow Meters: Koolance INS-FM17 (visual), Swissflow SF800 (sensor)
Coolant Temp Sensor: Bitspower BP-WTP-CT Shiny Silver Temp Sensor
Fittings: various Bitspower & Enzotech "Shiny Silver" fittings
TIM: Arctic Cooling MX-3 and Shin-Etsu X23-7783D (found the MX-3 to be a bit watery and the Shin-Etsu to be very thick/hard to apply... used it on the CPU block and maybe one other, w/the MX-3 on the rest)

[turtletrax]

Really nice - this looks awesome. Love how you have it going from the EK SLI/CF bridge straight into the pump. Did you go with the Parallel or Serial bridge, and how did you make your choice? Currently I have just one Radeon 5850 but if I ever got another I would definitely get one of these bridges... just wasn't sure what the consensus is on which type is better - Parallel vs. Serial...

Is it OK to have the 2 pumps separated like that in one loop? I would be worried about one burning out the other... I also switched my WC setup from 2 loops to 1 - went with the EK v2 dual ddc top:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=27148

I was a bit worried about burnout issues, so will see how it goes... should be doing leak testing today. Also I (wrongly) assumed it would sit underneath the motherboard (Rampage III Extreme) so the reservoir and all would be up against the back wall, but as you can see the board is about half inch too low once mounted (ARGH!!!), so I had to mount the pumps & res in the middle (used screws & cap nuts along w/the fan grill heheheh)... since the pump top isn't reversible, this was really the only position available for me (unless anyone has any ideas)...

Here's some preliminary pics w/no lighting, water (waiting for mayhem's dye & killcoil), RAM cooler, etc. yet... the tube going to the top of the res terminates at a fill port at the top of the case:

Thanks!

I ended up changing things around...




I went parallel to save some overall flow, basically only reason I went that way. Not like it is a big deal with the pumps we have nowadays. Other than that I just wanted to try one

I have an EK turbo top, but really didn't like the options it left me with and severely restricted my options for my loop (as you know )

Not too concerned about burning a pump out as they are properly cooled and not using anything that will insulate them, also will be running a BigNG on them so they will not be running 12v. Also will have them monitored, so, again not too worried.

I like your layout Sweet rig for sure It is actually funny how close our tube layout is

Now I have all the fun of sleeving my PSU and all my other cables

[lonkny]

Looks awesome - where did you end up putting the 2nd pump?

You're not going to believe what happened to me tonight, although it might be a blessing in a disguise... I was loosening the reservoir top to make filling it easier and the ENTIRE reservoir tube cracked off at the bottom... check it out (never seen such a thing):





I wasn't manhandling it AT ALL... it's an EK Multioption Res (not X2, but the version before) using Multioption Link at bottom to the dual ddc top... I just can't imagine this thing breaking with such little pressure. EK will probably replace the tube, but I can't wait 2 weeks for delivery from eastern Europe... I'm doing leak testing NOW!! ARGH... luckily the res wasn't completely full of water and I had paper towels setup everywhere... otherwise this could have been a huge nightmare. So back to the drawing board... which could be a good thing...

I love the "look" of the EK white dual ddc top, but it's too tall for the motherboard so it doesn't really work well in the case anyway (as mentioned, it's sort of sitting out in the middle of the shelf now)... so I may have to sacrifice the white top (even though I love the idea that my old res tube (50mm diameter, not 60) screwed into this top for a nice, clean look) and go for something more sensible. I actually have both an XSPC ddc res-top and an XSPC DDC top, so was thinking of doing something like this (just imagine the EK white top gone and the res-top in its place w/one ddc, then the other ddc where the XSPC acrylic top is placed on the left) - actually very similar to your original setup:



This is just one very preliminary idea... obviously doing this will change the tube routing quite a bit (for the worse I think, unless I figure out a better way of routing it)... One thing I don't like about this setup is that the reservoir is quite a bit smaller, so the tube coming from the top fill port will have a much longer way to go... I do have one of those Un-Designs brackets leftover from the old build so perhaps that could be utilized somehow...

Other ideas are to go with a separate reservoir mounted to the case, as in my last setup:



Then have something like the XSPC dual ddc top on the left side under the PCI cards, or below the shelf behind the PSU...

Does anyone have opinions on how to get out of this mess now, without having to wait 2+ weeks for a replacement res tube?! Here were some other possibilities I thought of:

Either of these in place of the XSPC Res Top (although I think both the XSPC ddc tops have the best performance of any of the ddc tops):

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...4e849a9a7b31a2

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...bdd828309ae7e4

Or get this one and utilize the 2 front ports rather than the top port (again though, I believe the XSPC dual ddc top is a better performer, albeit not as good looking):

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...9334531b9f7ada

Never been a big fan of Koolance stuff, but I like the fact that this single top would allow me to mount a reservoir where I want it (see my old build above) AND would allow me to connect the res tube directly to the top (anyone have experience w/these Koolance tops? Are they any good?):

Top: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...5232f15b7d2288

Tube: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...1c7195a98a7efc

What a hellish week this is turning into... thanks for any help on this!

[turtletrax]

Looks awesome - where did you end up putting the 2nd pump?

You're not going to believe what happened to me tonight, although it might be a blessing in a disguise... I was loosening the reservoir top to make filling it easier and the ENTIRE reservoir tube cracked off at the bottom... check it out (never seen such a thing):


I wasn't manhandling it AT ALL... it's an EK Multioption Res (not X2, but the version before) using Multioption Link at bottom to the dual ddc top... I just can't imagine this thing breaking with such little pressure. EK will probably replace the tube, but I can't wait 2 weeks for delivery from eastern Europe... I'm doing leak testing NOW!! ARGH... luckily the res wasn't completely full of water and I had paper towels setup everywhere... otherwise this could have been a huge nightmare. So back to the drawing board... which could be a good thing...

I love the "look" of the EK white dual ddc top, but it's too tall for the motherboard so it doesn't really work well in the case anyway (as mentioned, it's sort of sitting out in the middle of the shelf now)... so I may have to sacrifice the white top (even though I love the idea that my old res tube (50mm diameter, not 60) screwed into this top for a nice, clean look) and go for something more sensible. I actually have both an XSPC ddc res-top and an XSPC DDC top, so was thinking of doing something like this (just imagine the EK white top gone and the res-top in its place w/one ddc, then the other ddc where the XSPC acrylic top is placed on the left) - actually very similar to your original setup:



This is just one very preliminary idea... obviously doing this will change the tube routing quite a bit (for the worse I think, unless I figure out a better way of routing it)... One thing I don't like about this setup is that the reservoir is quite a bit smaller, so the tube coming from the top fill port will have a much longer way to go... I do have one of those Un-Designs brackets leftover from the old build so perhaps that could be utilized somehow...

Other ideas are to go with a separate reservoir mounted to the case, as in my last setup:



Then have something like the XSPC dual ddc top on the left side under the PCI cards, or below the shelf behind the PSU...

Does anyone have opinions on how to get out of this mess now, without having to wait 2+ weeks for a replacement res tube?! Here were some other possibilities I thought of:

Either of these in place of the XSPC Res Top (although I think both the XSPC ddc tops have the best performance of any of the ddc tops):

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...4e849a9a7b31a2

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...bdd828309ae7e4

Or get this one and utilize the 2 front ports rather than the top port (again though, I believe the XSPC dual ddc top is a better performer, albeit not as good looking):

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...9334531b9f7ada

Never been a big fan of Koolance stuff, but I like the fact that this single top would allow me to mount a reservoir where I want it (see my old build above) AND would allow me to connect the res tube directly to the top (anyone have experience w/these Koolance tops? Are they any good?):

Top: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...5232f15b7d2288

Tube: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...1c7195a98a7efc

What a hellish week this is turning into... thanks for any help on this!

Ouch m8! That seriously sucks.... But like you say, better now than in an unattended, full loop

If you need I have a EK V1 250ml tube I could ship to you. It is slightly scratched (not badly at all, really cant tell when installed and full). Where are you located?

I put my second pump in the optical cage. I drilled 5/16" holes and used vibration dampeners for acoustics. I really prefer this way over a double top as the loop options are superior. I Skyped Skinnee and talked to him about the likelihood of burning a pump out and he said I was fine if I the pumps were kept in the left of the power curve, which I will be doing via BigNG and MiniNG.

This allows you to really tweak your loop separation, even tho it has been proven that it does very little to improve temps by more than a half degree. In my books a half degree is worth trying to get

It seems that koolance has done an about face over the last couple years and has become a company I would consider. So if it suits your needs I would go for it. I have never had any of thier stuff other than a CPU backplate LOL.

If you need that res tube, LMK and I am sure we can work something out

[lonkny]

Ouch m8! That seriously sucks.... But like you say, better now than in an unattended, full loop

If you need I have a EK V1 250ml tube I could ship to you. It is slightly scratched (not badly at all, really cant tell when installed and full). Where are you located?

I put my second pump in the optical cage. I drilled 5/16" holes and used vibration dampeners for acoustics. I really prefer this way over a double top as the loop options are superior. I Skyped Skinnee and talked to him about the likelihood of burning a pump out and he said I was fine if I the pumps were kept in the left of the power curve, which I will be doing via BigNG and MiniNG.

This allows you to really tweak your loop separation, even tho it has been proven that it does very little to improve temps by more than a half degree. In my books a half degree is worth trying to get

It seems that koolance has done an about face over the last couple years and has become a company I would consider. So if it suits your needs I would go for it. I have never had any of thier stuff other than a CPU backplate LOL.

If you need that res tube, LMK and I am sure we can work something out

That's very generous of you... I'm still trying to decide which way to go, but it's good to know that I have that as an option, as they are not very easy to find these days since the X2's were released. Thanks.

Regarding the broken tube - it had a hairline crack where the threads ended, most likely from tightening it too much... incredibly, without much pressure at all I was able to break the other end off as well! During leak testing, I had noticed some small drops of water appearing on the outside of the tube which didn't make sense to me at the time... good thing this happened while the system was shut off and not much water in the tube.

I really like iandh's reservoirs, so am thinking of giving his a go... I just think the square XSPC reservoir looks pretty terrible in the case and would much prefer to stick with a cylindrical one... too bad the iandh is so damn expensive... hoping in this case you get what you pay for - I've heard great things about the workmanship of his products, and the clamps look great as well.

Something else I was thinking of was going w/the Koolance top mentioned above, but instead of using 1 large res tube, going with 2 smaller ones along with the Koolance Reservoir Coupler with 2 nozzle sockets, so that the CPU outlet can end up in the middle of the reservoir tube without having to go down to the bottom... just a thought.

This project is becoming a serious drain on my pocket for sure...

[turtletrax]

No worries, just shoot me a PM if you need it.

And trust me, I feel your pain. I have had troubles with the Bitspower FB block shorting the board in the past, so I triple checked before looping up to make sure it was booting. I ASSumed it would still be working after looping, so I filled my loop and did all my wiring and finnish up and the b@stard wont boot.

Can't decide if I am going to ditch just the block or the whole board as well.

I have two money pits on the go right now... I thought I would be done this one... More money


Oh, and if your are interested in an IandH res, you should order now. Sometimes they take time to get unless you can find a place that has stock already.

That's very generous of you... I'm still trying to decide which way to go, but it's good to know that I have that as an option, as they are not very easy to find these days since the X2's were released. Thanks.

Regarding the broken tube - it had a hairline crack where the threads ended, most likely from tightening it too much... incredibly, without much pressure at all I was able to break the other end off as well! During leak testing, I had noticed some small drops of water appearing on the outside of the tube which didn't make sense to me at the time... good thing this happened while the system was shut off and not much water in the tube.

I really like iandh's reservoirs, so am thinking of giving his a go... I just think the square XSPC reservoir looks pretty terrible in the case and would much prefer to stick with a cylindrical one... too bad the iandh is so damn expensive... hoping in this case you get what you pay for - I've heard great things about the workmanship of his products, and the clamps look great as well.

Something else I was thinking of was going w/the Koolance top mentioned above, but instead of using 1 large res tube, going with 2 smaller ones along with the Koolance Reservoir Coupler with 2 nozzle sockets, so that the CPU outlet can end up in the middle of the reservoir tube without having to go down to the bottom... just a thought.

This project is becoming a serious drain on my pocket for sure...

There is a certain tightness needed for Oring sealed connections. It is surprisingly low. I am a high pressure hydraulics technician and I work upto 70,000 psi and it still amazes me how you dont really need to tighten oring seals that hard.


Edit: Been having massive problems with the Bitspower motherboard block and shorting so I am 86ing the POS and using the R2E as a backup board and going with a Classified E760 and EK FB block. So, another stupid delay and more money...

I will be sticking with Bitspower for fittings only in the future...

[Celcius]

Here's my new 700d at the moment:

[lonkny]

So finally finished the build and lovin' it! Booted up on first try w/all new hardware so am psyched... also am now using an iandh Stealth Res... here are some pics...













and the specs (just minor changes from before):

Hardware:
Case: Corsair Obsidian 800D
Motherboard: Asus Rampage III Extreme
Processor: Intel Core i7 930
Memory: 3x2GB GSkill Pi Series PC3-16000
Video: XFX Radeon HD 5850 "XXX Edition"
System Drive: OCZ Vertex 2E 60GB OCZ Vertex 2 Sandforce Chipset
Data Drives: 2x500GB Seagate RAID1, 2x1.5TB WD Black RAID1, 1xOCZ Colossus OCZSSD2-1CLS250G 3.5" 250GB, 1xWD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s
Optical Drives: LG BluRay Burner, Asus DVD/RW
Sound: Auzentech Forte 7.1 PCI-e
Expansion Cards: Asus U3S6 USB3.0 & SATA6Gb/s PCI-e, Promise FastTrak TX2300 PCI RAID Controller
Display: Matrix Orbital LK-204-7T-1U-USB-TCI Tri Color 20x4 Character Display
Bay Device: Akasa All In One 2 Control Panel (used for ports only, not fan/temp control)
Pump/Fan/Thermal Power & Control: MCubed BigNG w/Analog Sensor Hub

Water Cooling:
Res1: IandH StealthRes 225 Reservoir w/Stealthclamps
Pump Top: EK-DDC Dual TOP V2 - White Acetal
Pumps: 2xSwiftech MCP355
Rad1: Swiftech MCR320 w/3 Zaward 120mm ZG2-120A "Golf" fans push & 3 Scythe Slipstream SY1225SL12SH pull
Rad2: Black Ice SR1 140mm Low Flow w/Zaward 140mm "Golf" fan push & Corsair 140mm fan pull
Board block: EK-FB RE3 Rampage III Extreme full board block
CPU: EK Supreme HF - Nickel/Red Plexi
VGA: EK FC-5850 w/RAM Backplate

Misc:
Fill Port: Danger Den Black Aluminum
Tubing: Feser UV White 1/2" ID 3/4" OD, Feser UV Red 1/2" ID 3/4" OD
Flow Meters: Koolance INS-FM17 (visual), Swissflow SF800 (sensor)
Coolant Temp Sensor: Bitspower BP-WTP-CT Shiny Silver Temp Sensor
Fittings: various Bitspower & Enzotech "Shiny Silver" fittings
TIM: Arctic Cooling MX-3 and Shin-Etsu X23-7783D