AMD's Bobcat and Bulldozer

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I meant an octocore MCM = 16 cores. I think that an Octocore 10h at 32nm is cooler than a Hexacore 10h at 45nm. So, i believe that even without a new architecture AMD would be able to make an 16 core MCM processor at 2.3GHz and higher.

I also believe that a Hexacore 10h uses more trannies than an 4 module BD.

let's forget server part for a minute shall we .... and lets focus on desktop ... 8 cores @ 3.2 on release and later on maybe even higher without turbo boost ....


and if you so love the server part then you could see how wrong my statement was when JF-AMD makes an official statement about the clocks of the bulldozer cpu lineup ....

Why not? I'm not saying I would ever buy their products if they priced it that high, as I go with the best low-mid grade product on the market regardless of brand, but once again, why not?

If Intel can remove fsb overclocking and it's understood around here why they are doing it (for profit reasons of course), then why shouldn't AMD be able to profit if they have a real winner?

Even still, if you can remember back to conroe pricing, Intel smashed AMD performance wise, but didn't really start to milk their products until now, unlike NVIDIA. They always had very powerful, very affordable products and also the ridiculously overpriced extreme editions. It's really up to us to decide the pricing anyways, as the market always determines a product's value, not the seller (at least in the US).

well because i wouldnt buy a 1000$ gpu ... let alone a 1000$ cpu .... and most people wouldnt ... the market for those type of cpu is quite low and unrealistic ... so if amd goes that route ill stick with what i have now ....