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    Quote Originally Posted by Florinmocanu View Post
    This is exact the thing people like terrace hang on, that BD cores loose 5-10% compared to Thuban. That is just naive to believe.
    It's -5% IPC vs Thuban, then higher frequency due to the longer pipeline with faster pipe stages, estimated at 20-25%. This is for a single thread doing integer work.

    So says AMD's ex Chief Architect.

    IPC is not "performance" it is "performance/frequency". I believe this is the source of much confusion.

    BD will have slightly LOWER (integer) IPC for single threads than Phenom-II, which it will attempt to (more than) make up for using speed-racer frequencies. Put together, you could see a performance increase of 15-20% (this depends on GloFo being able to deliver a good enough gate-first 32nm process, which is... uncertain) , but this is nowhere near enough to catch SB, as it just demonstrated a similar gain over Nehalem/Westmere, and Phenom-2 starts in a big hole relative to Nehalem. This is about integer single- (and therefore also low-) threaded workloads.
    Last edited by terrace215; 08-29-2010 at 08:54 PM.

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