Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post
It is typically 9 months to a year after first tape out that products finalize and have enough volume to lanch. My guess is that we will see first leaked BD numbers around marchish timeframe of next year.

For example, Barcelona was demonstrated in Decemberish of 2006 (taped out like August-septemberish of 06) and we saw first products around novemberish of 07...

I don't think it matters really, regardless of when it comes it is going to be fun to dissect it.
I don't think AMD will let the chips to be leaked.

Shanghai / Deneb has nearly zero leaked info vs official info.