***Asus Rampage III Extreme Owners Thread***

[Raja@ASUS]

i got 3 920s here
1 will do 4.77 linx stable on rexII and e760
my best 920 maxed out 4.6 slow mode on rex III i even tried 3x1 hypers
i dont need extra special clocking bios just a bois that will function properly on bloomfeid i dont give a crap for gulftown i sold my chip
i dont a crap what the board will do zubzero any cheap board will clock subzero
i'll even accept a bios as good as the rampage II gene
if we not gonna get a good bios for gulftown i'd like to know and just dump the board

As I said above, a "magical" BIOS will NOT improve clocking margins (assuming the board has been set up correctly by the end user), you are wasting your time.

What you speak of is a hardware level limit, it won't change with a BIOS "that works properly for Bloomfield.". It's a myth that there is some kind of special Bloomfield or Gulftown tweak that makes the board lean in one direction.

You get a bad IOH and there's nothing you can do on boards like this in software (BIOS).

If you are unhappy, cut your losses and sell it. Best advice.

-Raja

[zsamz_]

As I said above, a "magical" BIOS will NOT improve clocking margins (assuming the board has been set up correctly by the end user), you are wasting your time.

What you speak of is a hardware level limit, it won't change with a BIOS "that works properly for Bloomfield.". It's a myth that there is some kind of special Bloomfield or Gulftown tweak that makes the board lean in one direction.

You get a bad IOH and there's nothing you can do on boards like this in software (BIOS).

If you are unhappy, cut your losses and sell it. Best advice.

-Raja

so in other words there is no hope for bloomfeild

[Samson]

No, those are the newer (PSC based I believe) kits. I have the Hyper MGH-E kit, CMG6GX3M3A2000C8 + extended fins.

Sure I don't mind. You have to know though that every cpu is different so voltages will vary... Expect to either run a lot of voltage to get them stable or run into problems. Key is to not try and skip ahead. Start from stock and you'll get a better understanding of what's going on...

Maybe you're already aware of this but I just want to make sure. If you're going to play with RAM voltages
NEVER let the difference between QPI/DRAM voltage and DRAM Bus voltage be more than 0.5v
You will Kill your CPU.

Update -

Rampage III Extreme

Beta BIOS 0010 -
1. Fix Fan Ramp Issue with previous Beta

http://www.mediafire.com/file/c22yya...-ASUS-0010.rar

Ok, is this the BIOS that incorporates all the improvements made to BIOS 0002 and 0878 ??

[nickless]

...
Ok, is this the BIOS that incorporates all the improvements made to BIOS 0002 and 0878 ??

This is from the other thread:
Beta BIOS 0010 -
1. Fix Fan Ramp Issue with previous Beta 0002/0009
2. Memory Table Fine Tuning

[zsamz_]

Maybe you're already aware of this but I just want to make sure. If you're going to play with RAM voltages
NEVER let the difference between QPI/DRAM voltage and DRAM Bus voltage be more than 0.5v
You will Kill your CPU.

thats a myth
none of my cpus are even degraded

[bingo13]

Ok, is this the BIOS that incorporates all the improvements made to BIOS 0002 and 0878 ??

No, just a followup to the 0002/0009. The all inclusive BIOS will be an official release.

[bingo13]

so in other words there is no hope for bloomfeild

This board clocks Bloomfields just as well as it does Gulftowns, it just requires different tuning on the QPI/VTT side. This board requires different settings on Bloomfield than it does on the RIIE or other boards due to the PWM design. My 920 and 980 both happily run at 230 Bclk on air and once things get colder the Bclk rates certainly go higher.

The differences between boards at times come down to the quality of the IOH. Sometimes you get a really good one and sometimes you might get one that is average. The other problem is that if you ran your Bloomfield on a Gigabyte X58-Uxx series board then chances are you will need a lot more VTT as those boards had some problems that damaged processors (just do a search here and you will find the thread on it).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=256934 - One example of many with Bloomfields hitting high Bclks.

[Fire4Wire]

@bingo

i have Rampage III Extreme and beta bios 1003

why your newest bios are 0010 and 0878??

must an newer bios not named as 1004-1005-xxxx

can you tell me why this is so??

[kurumi_Japan]

The only version out is 1.04G, there is not a 2.xxx version of the board. That number being reported is based on CPU Microcode.

What's meaning of based on CPU microcode?
980X has some CPU microcode?

It's very strange what CPU-Z rev based on CPU microcode.
If so that 980X has some CPU microcode at 1 CPU model???
My rex3 with 980x reported rev 1.xx, some of my friends rex3 with 980x reported rev 2.xx.

Yes, I know all retail rex3 PCB rev is only 1.04G.

[bassplayer]

I didn't really want to post this, but I have seen only one RIIIE with a strong IOH. Did the binning just go out the window with these things?

[playground]

I didn't really want to post this, but I have seen only one RIIIE with a strong IOH. Did the binning just go out the window with these things?

what u mean by Strong IOH m8t?

[kurumi_Japan]

what u mean by Strong IOH m8t?

I think it means good IOH chip.

Basically, under 240 - 250MHz, BCLK limitation based on IOH chip quality.
Good IOH chip can run over 240MHz with x36 QPI link speed.
Average IOH can run around 220 - 230MHz with x36 QPI link speed.
Bad IOH chip just only run under 210 MHz with x36 QPI link speed.

The first you check your IOH QPI limit.
You can check QPI link limit with x12 CPU multi, easilly.
(If x36 QPI link & slow mode limit are same, it's CPU BCLK limit.)

[bassplayer]

I think it means good IOH chip.

Basically, under 240 - 250MHz, BCLK limitation based on IOH chip quality.
Good IOH chip can run over 240MHz with x36 QPI link speed.
Average IOH can run around 220 - 230MHz with x36 QPI link speed.
Bad IOH chip just only run under 210 MHz with x36 QPI link speed.

The first you check your IOH QPI limit.
You can check QPI link limit with x12 CPU multi, easilly.
(If x36 QPI link & slow mode limit are same, it's CPU BCLK limit.)

I'm limited to 215 before degradation kills my 3D scores and 220 before it stops booting... which is absolute bull crap considering how expensive this board is.

What kind of support does Asus have for extreme benchers? Can someone PM me a better way to go about getting this resolved (or a good contact) since on the front end "overclocking voids warranties"?

[bingo13]

I didn't really want to post this, but I have seen only one RIIIE with a strong IOH. Did the binning just go out the window with these things?

I have seen numerous boards with really good IOHs and so far only two that were what I would call average. Of the last 30 samples checked at Newegg, three went over 230 on air, 25 were all around 225~28, and two were at 220~221.

IOH quality certainly plays into overclocking as I have stated before, but the quality of your chip, memory, and power supply play a large part also. Discounting all of that, you have to have the BIOS setup properly based on your hardware combination. PM me and we can discuss further.

[bingo13]

@bingo

i have Rampage III Extreme and beta bios 1003

why your newest bios are 0010 and 0878??

must an newer bios not named as 1004-1005-xxxx

can you tell me why this is so??

These BIOS codes are based on the 1003 code. They are named differently as I released them straight from R&D as service will not provide support on them. The next beta (through the qualification process but not finalized) or official BIOS will be in the 1000 series.

[kurumi_Japan]

I'm limited to 215 before degradation kills my 3D scores and 220 before it stops booting... which is absolute bull crap considering how expensive this board is.

I have been buy over 50 pcs of X58 mobo, and select good IOH chip mobo for benching.

This IOH BCLK limitation does not different between vender to vender.
If you buy eVGA or GIGABYTE or ASUS, the result is same.
I think if you buy 5-6 same board, you can get good one.
This is IOH chip quality problems, not mobo design problems.

So please stop complain to vender.

[Hondacity]

I have been buy over 50 pcs of X58 mobo, and select good IOH chip mobo for benching.

This IOH BCLK limitation does not different between vender to vender.
If you buy eVGA or GIGABYTE or ASUS, the result is same.
I think if you buy 5-6 same board, you can get good one.
This is IOH chip quality problems, not mobo design problems.

So please stop complain to vender.

you're the guy who bought those many many x58 boards!!! nice to see you here man...

[kurumi_Japan]

you're the guy who bought those many many x58 boards!!! nice to see you here man...

I love H/W, especially mobo very much!!
So, when I find new rev or new mobo at my favorite shop, I buy it.

In fact, Bloomfield & Gulftown overclocking, mobo is very important factor, I think.
If you have good CPU, but mobo does not good one, you can not get good result.
So I need good CPU & mobo!!

At this time, my favorite mobo is REX3, especially REX3 BIOS is very nice.
Thank you for ASUS development team & bingo13!!

[donmarkoni]

Yea they are good looking but probably not as effective as say the Corsair or Kingston design, with the added direct air flow from the optional fan (available for kingston as well).

What kind of timings have you got out of them? I also have a set thats why I ask

I really doubt at cooling efficiency of Corsair's design, unless there is thermal paste between plates and upper fins, although they are great sticks. Kingston's design is plain ugly IMO with those tall heatsinks.

Currently I'm in a process of tweaking memory with Gulftown, but you can check these threads: Mushkin Redline 1600 6-7-6-18-1T@i4memory, Asus Rampage III Extreme - results thread@i4memory and Mushkin Redline 1600 6-7-6-18-1T@mushkin as they contain my settings and achievements.

[Fire4Wire]

These BIOS codes are based on the 1003 code. They are named differently as I released them straight from R&D as service will not provide support on them. The next beta (through the qualification process but not finalized) or official BIOS will be in the 1000 series.

did you have an release date for official 1000 series bios??

but why 3 bios "Types"

0010-0878-1003???

[bassplayer]

I have been buy over 50 pcs of X58 mobo, and select good IOH chip mobo for benching.

This IOH BCLK limitation does not different between vender to vender.
If you buy eVGA or GIGABYTE or ASUS, the result is same.
I think if you buy 5-6 same board, you can get good one.
This is IOH chip quality problems, not mobo design problems.

So please stop complain to vender.

I realize there's nothing wrong with the design. It's a great motherboard, but from what I've seen, they generally have trouble pushing high BCLK without QPI Slow Mode enabled. What I am saying is that I think for the high end boards, it would make sense for the IOH to be binned better. I accept that this might be asking for too much. It just seems unfortunate that I can have such a great chip and be held back by my board. I was able to push 230 on my old Gigabyte board. I can't get close to that on this one without QPISM enabled.

[zsamz_]

This board clocks Bloomfields just as well as it does Gulftowns, it just requires different tuning on the QPI/VTT side. This board requires different settings on Bloomfield than it does on the RIIE or other boards due to the PWM design. My 920 and 980 both happily run at 230 Bclk on air and once things get colder the Bclk rates certainly go higher.

The differences between boards at times come down to the quality of the IOH. Sometimes you get a really good one and sometimes you might get one that is average. The other problem is that if you ran your Bloomfield on a Gigabyte X58-Uxx series board then chances are you will need a lot more VTT as those boards had some problems that damaged processors (just do a search here and you will find the thread on it).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=256934 - One example of many with Bloomfields hitting high Bclks.

lol i wont run no gigabut x58
thats exactly why i didnt get a ud7
i'll take the board out again n try again with another bios
hope gaming performance is fixed
btw subzero high blk can be done on cheap boards too you know
i'm guessing the IOH on the board suks lol

[zsamz_]

I realize there's nothing wrong with the design. It's a great motherboard, but from what I've seen, they generally have trouble pushing high BCLK without QPI Slow Mode enabled. What I am saying is that I think for the high end boards, it would make sense for the IOH to be binned better. I accept that this might be asking for too much. It just seems unfortunate that I can have such a great chip and be held back by my board. I was able to push 230 on my old Gigabyte board. I can't get close to that on this one without QPISM enabled.

it sukd cause i can boot to 230blk on both my e760 boards n i cant hit 220 on rexIII
even my rexII gene hit 222blk lol

[bassplayer]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=256934 - One example of many with Bloomfields hitting high Bclks.

I can hit high clocks, just not with the x36 multi on the QPI.









I want some of those speeds in 3D!

[tistou77]

Hi

I read that it was possible to connect a connector "Internal USB" port on the RC Bluetooth but the pin is not in one place

is this possible or not?

thanks