***Asus Rampage III Extreme Owners Thread***

[Samson]

No, you can't use 3 & 4 and maintain 16x speed for both. You said you will be using 2 & 4 and it would be OK for 16x/16x.
You can use 1&3 or 1&4 or 2&3 or 2&4 to keep it at 16x/16x, and not 1&2 or 3&4 as it will drop to 8x/8x.
About using x1 card by the side of VGA and maintaining VGA at 16x, I'm 99% sure, as I read it somewhere what people tried, but didn't try it myself.

Ok, I am sorry, it is my mistake I was very tired, it was in the early morning
hours and I hadn't gone to sleep yet. I meant to say slots 2 and 4 but typed
out 3 and 4. Sorry.

But thank you so much for the perfectly clear reply. The good side of my
error is that it caused you to give an even more detailed explanation of
which slots can be used for 16x. It is crystal clear now, and should be to all
looking at this topic.

Thank you again.

[harbin]

Nvd

[skuldarin]

i had no problems with linx and 980x

lower your overclock n chek again

i shouldn't have too, that's the issue...

i'm on water, temps are fine... i can't seem to use any QPI voltage between 1.33 and 1.38v... it BSOD's on every segment between that range. can't seem to boot @ or above 1900mhz on memory. i DO have 12gb of memory but with what memory it is and what cpu i'm using i shouldn't be having the issues i am with a 980x + (6x2) Dominator-GT's... none of them are defective either and it's really irritating. i SHOULD be able to get 4.5 on cpu and 2000 on memory but it just wont do it... critical errors left and right so whatever... and i don't trust LinX anymore... EVERYTHING else i have to stress test with passes the 4.3ghz / 1880mhz setup and does it solid for nearly 24 hours straight... yet LinX thinks it's not stable... i don't trust it... specially when it's not exactly putting 100% load because i get nearly 15% more power consumption when testing with Prime.

[fmsam]

I can confirm that using a sound card in slot 4 or 2 does not slow slots 1 and 3 at all,
currently I have a D2X in slot four and both my 5870s are running at x16.

[Viss]

i shouldn't have too, that's the issue...

6x2GB at high speed is tough for IMC, many wil need 1.35 ~1.45 on QPI/VTT to be able to run it stable..

[Raja@ASUS]

i shouldn't have too, that's the issue...

i'm on water, temps are fine... i can't seem to use any QPI voltage between 1.33 and 1.38v... it BSOD's on every segment between that range. can't seem to boot @ or above 1900mhz on memory. i DO have 12gb of memory but with what memory it is and what cpu i'm using i shouldn't be having the issues i am with a 980x + (6x2) Dominator-GT's... none of them are defective either and it's really irritating. i SHOULD be able to get 4.5 on cpu and 2000 on memory but it just wont do it... critical errors left and right so whatever... and i don't trust LinX anymore... EVERYTHING else i have to stress test with passes the 4.3ghz / 1880mhz setup and does it solid for nearly 24 hours straight... yet LinX thinks it's not stable... i don't trust it... specially when it's not exactly putting 100% load because i get nearly 15% more power consumption when testing with Prime.

Power consumption is not the full picture. It depends where that power is being drawn from and which bus is being stressed as a result. Overall Linpack is harder to pass than Prime in my experience.


DDR3-2000 with 12GB of memory unconditionally stable, is going to be difficult. I achieved DDR3-1904 with 12GB at 7-9-8-20 - using a GSkill PSC based kit. If you can get that, it is more than enough. Alternatively, you can aim for DDR3-1600 CAS 6 with a tRCD of 6. Higher bandwidth does not add up to much as the dominating factors for random access are tRCD and tCL. A tRCD of 6 at DDR3-1600 gives you a plenty fast random access time of
7.5ns, versus a time of 8 ns with a tRCD of 8 at DDR3-2000. The burst time period will be a little faster at DDR3-2000, but not by enough to make any kind of noticeable difference to applications.

[zsamz_]

i shouldn't have too, that's the issue...

i'm on water, temps are fine... i can't seem to use any QPI voltage between 1.33 and 1.38v... it BSOD's on every segment between that range. can't seem to boot @ or above 1900mhz on memory. i DO have 12gb of memory but with what memory it is and what cpu i'm using i shouldn't be having the issues i am with a 980x + (6x2) Dominator-GT's... none of them are defective either and it's really irritating. i SHOULD be able to get 4.5 on cpu and 2000 on memory but it just wont do it... critical errors left and right so whatever... and i don't trust LinX anymore... EVERYTHING else i have to stress test with passes the 4.3ghz / 1880mhz setup and does it solid for nearly 24 hours straight... yet LinX thinks it's not stable... i don't trust it... specially when it's not exactly putting 100% load because i get nearly 15% more power consumption when testing with Prime.

i had no problems with 12gb of dominator gt @ 2050mhz 8-8-8-24 with 980x i had 1.42v for qpi
its after 2100mhz i ran into problems but then i was only usind 1.65v
try 1.67v

i dont use prime much anymore i like linx cause its way faster
most times i can do prime n cant pass linx for 2 min lol

[Samson]

I can confirm that using a sound card in slot 4 or 2 does not slow slots 1 and 3 at all,
currently I have a D2X in slot four and both my 5870s are running at x16.

Great ! Good to know. Now we have an answer to that as well. Thank you.

[skuldarin]

i had no problems with 12gb of dominator gt @ 2050mhz 8-8-8-24 with 980x i had 1.42v for qpi
its after 2100mhz i ran into problems but then i was only usind 1.65v
try 1.67v

i dont use prime much anymore i like linx cause its way faster
most times i can do prime n cant pass linx for 2 min lol

mine are the Corsair CMT12GX3M6A1866C9 kit with PSC chips. what are the complete settings you had for that setup if you don't mind me asking? blck, multiplier, other timings of the memory and so on. i'll see if it'll work for me or tweak them a bit. as of right now i've yet to even get it to post with memory set to 2000+ even with QPI set as high as 1.48. so unless i'm over looking some timings or something i can't quite figure out why it wont go.

i KNOW 12gb is difficult to get to high speeds due to the IMC, but i KNOW this kit and others like it can do it without issue with the 980x but NO ONE really lists the detailed settings they have to have gotten there. they just say "oh ya i've got mine at such and such speed" when someone like me is having issues and is asking for help but never do they say what settings they used

[OC Nub]

i shouldn't have too, that's the issue...

i'm on water, temps are fine... i can't seem to use any QPI voltage between 1.33 and 1.38v... it BSOD's on every segment between that range. can't seem to boot @ or above 1900mhz on memory. i DO have 12gb of memory but with what memory it is and what cpu i'm using i shouldn't be having the issues i am with a 980x + (6x2) Dominator-GT's... none of them are defective either and it's really irritating. i SHOULD be able to get 4.5 on cpu and 2000 on memory but it just wont do it... critical errors left and right so whatever... and i don't trust LinX anymore... EVERYTHING else i have to stress test with passes the 4.3ghz / 1880mhz setup and does it solid for nearly 24 hours straight... yet LinX thinks it's not stable... i don't trust it... specially when it's not exactly putting 100% load because i get nearly 15% more power consumption when testing with Prime.

how much memory are you testing with prime?

the default is 1600mb which will explain why you pass it, you are only testing a small percentage of the total memory. do a custom run using more mem and it will probably fail if linx does.

IMO that is the only reason blend passes and linx fails (not enough mem selected), on older platforms where 2 or 4gb was the norm linx required a little less voltage to pass, and on my x58 if i set custom blend and use more memory blend is still harder to pass. using the latest version 26.xx i bsod in blend on a linx stable system, 4500mhz.

[kill_a_wat]

hey skuldarin I found linx the hardest to pass with 980x. So if you're looking for 24/7 stable definetly run linx 25K+ problem size and maybe a quickie Hyper Pi run

[skuldarin]

how much memory are you testing with prime?

the default is 1600mb which will explain why you pass it, you are only testing a small percentage of the total memory. do a custom run using more mem and it will probably fail if linx does.

IMO that is the only reason blend passes and linx fails (not enough mem selected), on older platforms where 2 or 4gb was the norm linx required a little less voltage to pass, and on my x58 if i set custom blend and use more memory blend is still harder to pass. using the latest version 26.xx i bsod in blend on a linx stable system, 4500mhz.

i do custom blend and test the rough amount of available memory like LinX does (before i used LinX i was testing 10gb of memory leaving the rest with a bit of head room for windows and whatnot while testing.). i've been making sure to test as much memory as possible every time to insure stability.

hell, even with LinX, before i test all memory i first start with a 10minute pass with 16mb (about 4500 passes), then i test 64mb for 5 minutes and then i test 128mb and 512mb for 1000 passes. then i test 1gb and 2gb for 100 passes and THEN go to full memory. it may seem like major over kill, but if nothing is caught through all of that, it should be fine in my eyes...

hey skuldarin I found linx the hardest to pass with 980x. So if you're looking for 24/7 stable definetly run linx 25K+ problem size and maybe a quickie Hyper Pi run

i'll try it and see if there's any differences. right now i'm testing 4510mhz / 1866mhz @ CL7 (7-9-7-24-72) and in the middle of the 10 and 5 minute passes right now. almost every attempt i've been doing hasn't passes the 10minute 16mb test but this one just finish without errors so i'll update later.

[OC Nub]

^^ if it doesnt crash or fail in anything you do, i would call it stable and move on. i always had a harder time passing blend but im not on a gulftown.

i play bc2 mostly, getting tired of overclocking for now. i run the i7 930 at 4600mhz to play the game with ht disabled, but i dropped vcore down from what it required to pass linx because it has run the game fine for many many hours with no issues at all. i ran linx a lot to get on that 4.5ghz linx stable thread but other than that i could really care less if it passed, as long as it does what i need it to without problems.

[kill_a_wat]

^^ if it doesnt crash or fail in anything you do, i would call it stable and move on. i always had a harder time passing blend but im not on a gulftown.

i play bc2 mostly, getting tired of overclocking for now. i run the i7 930 at 4600mhz to play the game with ht disabled, but i dropped vcore down from what it required to pass linx because it has run the game fine for many many hours with no issues at all. i ran linx a lot to get on that 4.5ghz linx stable thread but other than that i could really care less if it passed, as long as it does what i need it to without problems.

Hehe your like me. I did it just for that thread. Otherwise I tend to just run Hyper Pi 32M multi core and then if it passes just play games etc. After a while you get used to how the cpu behaves and just up a setting here and there then all good.

And good to hear Skuldarin. Btw 1866Mhz CL7 is fine I wouldnt have a problem with that. But understandable you want to run 2Ghz+ 12gb if possible

[skuldarin]

Hehe your like me. I did it just for that thread. Otherwise I tend to just run Hyper Pi 32M multi core and then if it passes just play games etc. After a while you get used to how the cpu behaves and just up a setting here and there then all good.

And good to hear Skuldarin. Btw 1866Mhz CL7 is fine I wouldnt have a problem with that. But understandable you want to run 2Ghz+ 12gb if possible

i just wanted to hit 2000 because it's been done and from the sounds of it, rather easily.

if LinX is just THAT difficult to pass then i'm just not going to worry about it and go by the other programs (Prime, PI, memtest) cause they all pass without any issue all the time. and like Nub says, LinX does require me to up vcore quite a bit over when i would deme stable through other programs. i only need about 1.43v vcore for it to pass everything else at 4.5ghz where as LinX wants me to put it to 1.47 which just sky rockets temps.

@ 4.5ghz / 1866mhz CL7, it passes Prime95 previously tested upto 11 hours and no hickups, it passes Pi multi on 32m repeatidly with no issue and it passes memtest easily enough aswell all without BSOD at the following:

vcore - 1.44v
vtt - 1.3125v
dram - 1.7v
IOH - 1.23v
PICE - 1.53v
uncore - 2800
link - 7444mhz
ratio - 29x155

cpu - 4.510ghz
mem - 1866mhz @ 7-9-7-24-72-2T

average temps - mid 70's
peak temps - 84*c on core 1, 82 on core 5, 79 on the rest

EDIT: not to mention the only error i get from anything at all is with World of Warcraft. it does get a critical error on a very RARE basis but other than that i don't have any issues.

[skuldarin]

i'll do more stress testing tonight but here's a shot just before i did about an hour of FFT-12k stressing. i used a memory size of 10512mb (left about 200mb headroom for whatever operations were going in the background). FFT-12k testing showed a peak temp of 89*c but there's much that i do that hardly gets the cpu past 70*c so i'm not worried about it.

[Rasmus66]

Just tested my board last weekend on dice

The board turned out to be quite good

250 mhz superpi 1M stable on my I7 920 and it booted fine with 255 mhz blck

[Raja@ASUS]

i just wanted to hit 2000 because it's been done and from the sounds of it, rather easily.

if LinX is just THAT difficult to pass then i'm just not going to worry about it and go by the other programs (Prime, PI, memtest) cause they all pass without any issue all the time. and like Nub says, LinX does require me to up vcore quite a bit over when i would deme stable through other programs. i only need about 1.43v vcore for it to pass everything else at 4.5ghz where as LinX wants me to put it to 1.47 which just sky rockets temps.

@ 4.5ghz / 1866mhz CL7, it passes Prime95 previously tested upto 11 hours and no hickups, it passes Pi multi on 32m repeatidly with no issue and it passes memtest easily enough aswell all without BSOD at the following:

vcore - 1.44v
vtt - 1.3125v
dram - 1.7v
IOH - 1.23v
PICE - 1.53v
uncore - 2800
link - 7444mhz
ratio - 29x155

cpu - 4.510ghz
mem - 1866mhz @ 7-9-7-24-72-2T

average temps - mid 70's
peak temps - 84*c on core 1, 82 on core 5, 79 on the rest

EDIT: not to mention the only error i get from anything at all is with World of Warcraft. it does get a critical error on a very RARE basis but other than that i don't have any issues.

If that kit is PSC based you will not get tRCD 8 stable over 2K. 7-9-8-20 should be doable to 1900 without flailing VTT after that you may have to go for a tRCD of 10 which is not worth it becasue you will lose access time on random reads until you hit a speed of DDR3-2100 or so vs a tRCD of 9 at DDR3-2000. The sense amplifier in PSC and the newer Elpida variants is not as aggressive as what was used in the now de-funkt Hyper. For sub-timings to start with check this image (tighten only when you pass your stability test).

http://img205.imageshack.us/f/hyper1945mhz798crop.png/

Be sure to enable extreme 0V in BIOS and turn off OCP to DRAM and perhaps VTT.

Later
Raja

[kaka_89]

hye guys..is it possible for me to hit 3600 uncore with my 1600mhz dram mem..??i've set the timings to 8-8-8-24/88..i've push my cpu vtt till 1.400..but keeps on error on linx after 11th test..huhu..any guide..? ..or i have to get the 2000mhz ram in order to achieve that 3600 uncore..?

[kurumi_Japan]

Just tested my board last weekend on dice

The board turned out to be quite good

250 mhz superpi 1M stable on my I7 920 and it booted fine with 255 mhz blck

Congraduation Rasmus66!!
Keep pushing your 920.

[Fire4Wire]

a guy in hardwareluxx forum has an internal 0009 bios for gulftown owners with 3-4 new bios entrys



look

[Splave]

i can has?

[Rasmus66]

Congraduation Rasmus66!!
Keep pushing your 920.

Thanks

Will test with some LN2 soon

[bassplayer]

I'm going to try to push this board for 3D tonight in a dice session. As per usual, I've had difficulty getting past the ~4GHz QPI wall.

Does anyone have any suggestions? My chip will WPrime 1024 at almost 5.2GHz so I figured it should be able to make it through Vantage around 5.1GHz. But then again, that's going to require a 243 BCLK and I've never taken this thing above ~225 without slow mode enabled.

[Rasmus66]

I'm going to try to push this board for 3D tonight in a dice session. As per usual, I've had difficulty getting past the ~4GHz QPI wall.

Does anyone have any suggestions? My chip will WPrime 1024 at almost 5.2GHz so I figured it should be able to make it through Vantage around 5.1GHz. But then again, that's going to require a 243 BCLK and I've never taken this thing above ~225 without slow mode enabled.

Which bios version are you using?

I got the best results with the newest 0802