Skinnee Labs - GTX480 Block Round-Up (working thread)

[UrbanSmooth]

I actually started a thread over in the water cooling section of EOCF. I'll try to bring this thread over to XS sometime this weekend.

Ok, we're here now: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=256162

[scottc19]

Now that hes banned this will never finish. I kind of that it wouldnt anyway. Who in their right mind would get tons of waterblocks to review and never finish. He obviously had the time. I think some sketchy stuff was involed and thus this never made a close. Too bad, soo many views, so little accomplished...

[Alexandr0s]

Now that hes banned this will never finish. I kind of that it wouldnt anyway. Who in their right mind would get tons of waterblocks to review and never finish. He obviously had the time. I think some sketchy stuff was involed and thus this never made a close. Too bad, soo many views, so little accomplished...

Uhm, dude, if you take a lot at the previous pages, you'll notice a lot of the results are already public. And Skinnee is also still writing the review, it's just so much information . For Skinnee, this is probably only a bit of bad publicity, and he might be deterred to do some OC'ing for a while. But he'll be back in two weeks anyway.

[scottc19]

Uhm, dude, if you take a lot at the previous pages, you'll notice a lot of the results are already public. And Skinnee is also still writing the review, it's just so much information . For Skinnee, this is probably only a bit of bad publicity, and he might be deterred to do some OC'ing for a while. But he'll be back in two weeks anyway.

So So, but does it really take 3 months and still not have a complete review?
This to me is not acceptable, what are your thoughts?

[Pado]

So So, but does it really take 3 months and still not have a complete review?
This to me is not acceptable, what are your thoughts?

You aren't paying him, so he can take as long as he wants? :\

[Alexandr0s]

So So, but does it really take 3 months and still not have a complete review?
This to me is not acceptable, what are your thoughts?

Wait, so he spends his own spare time and money to do these reviews for us, only for you to critisize him because he's taking so long?

If you're so unhappy about his working pace, why don't you go write your own extensive review with 8 different blocks, 10 different configurations, probably around 5 mounts per block, and a crapload of more stuff ?

[Guapa5000]

Wait, so he spends his own spare time and money to do these reviews for us, only for you to critisize him because he's taking so long?

If you're so unhappy about his working pace, why don't you go write your own extensive review with 8 different blocks, 10 different configurations, probably around 5 mounts per block, and a crapload of more stuff ?

+1

[Johnny87au]

Wait, so he spends his own spare time and money to do these reviews for us, only for you to critisize him because he's taking so long?

If you're so unhappy about his working pace, why don't you go write your own extensive review with 8 different blocks, 10 different configurations, probably around 5 mounts per block, and a crapload of more stuff ?

Couldnt of said it any better dude.. Its true though

[JumpingJack]

So So, but does it really take 3 months and still not have a complete review?
This to me is not acceptable, what are your thoughts?

The question is not acceptable.

There is no better resource on the net than Skinee labs for parting out your build, each review contains data and information that will not be found anywhere else... and he does it for us at no charge.

He should be commended, not questioned.

[Alexandr0s]

I understand though why some are frustrated, but that's due to a small miscommunication and a minor mistake by Skinnee. Originally, this thread was meant as an announcement that there would be a GTX480 block roundup, but because of the large discussion that started here, Skinnee decided to keep it to this thread. It's not uncommon for a review to take up to a month, especially when he's busy. This is the first time however that we've had a heads-up that he was starting testing. Which meant we had to wait untill he was finished, whereas usually, we would only know about the review until it was released. So it's understandable that some people get impatient, that's perfectly normal. We're just telling you, scottc, not to snap at Skinnee, because of your impatience.

[@lex]

I wonder how much those VRM temperatures you've measured with that probe correlate with the real tempeature of MOSFETs. If I were to make such a test of waterblocks I would get a pyrometer with laser pointer and measure the temperature on the back of PCB right under one of MOSFETs. It is also possible to measure the temperature of memory chips. Such a measure would strictly correlate with the real temperature of the component on the face side of PCB.

[sirsiddius]

I wonder how much those VRM temperatures you've measured with that probe correlate with the real tempeature of MOSFETs.

+1 I wonder as well.

[Systemlord]

I can only hope that the other companies (EK etc..) start to design their VGA water blocks for TIM use instead of using thermal pads since it makes such a large difference on the RAM and VRMs!

[Waterlogged]

I can only hope that the other companies (EK etc..) start to design their VGA water blocks for TIM use instead of using thermal pads since it makes such a large difference on the RAM and VRMs!

It's actually a little riskier to machine the blocks like that because not all the components (like RAM) are always the same height of the board. Some may make great contact and others total crap contact.

[Church]

Waterlogged: yet imho best results are reachable only with using TIM, and taking #1 or #2 position of performance might give extra boost to sales justifying a bit those risks.

[Waterlogged]

Waterlogged: yet imho best results are reachable only with using TIM, and taking #1 or #2 position of performance might give extra boost to sales justifying a bit those risks.

Yet ppl automatically gravitate towards EK because of the bling factor so does it really matter? I'm not disagreeing about the lower temps to be gained but when you already get a fair share of sales, why risk that if ppl all of a sudden start bricking cards for marginally (if not negligibly) better performance?

[Boogerlad]

It would be cool to throw in results of core only gpu and sinks for comparison. That will cut down the myth if any of core>fc for performance.

[Alexandr0s]

I wonder how much those VRM temperatures you've measured with that probe correlate with the real tempeature of MOSFETs. If I were to make such a test of waterblocks I would get a pyrometer with laser pointer and measure the temperature on the back of PCB right under one of MOSFETs. It is also possible to measure the temperature of memory chips. Such a measure would strictly correlate with the real temperature of the component on the face side of PCB.

This test was not designed to find the exact VRM temperatures, but to find the difference between blocks. That's why it's not required to have them precise, but as close as possible. The difference should stay the same when you're in the same area as the VRM.

[Vapor]

Waterlogged: yet imho best results are reachable only with using TIM, and taking #1 or #2 position of performance might give extra boost to sales justifying a bit those risks.

Or people could just use better performing thermal pads

Investigation of that is for another test and another day (though nothing on either of our radar's), but the provided thermal pads are definitely not all equal among the manus.

It would be cool to throw in results of core only gpu and sinks for comparison. That will cut down the myth if any of core>fc for performance.

That's for another test, which is being put into motion

The best tests I've ever seen on the matter are gabe's MCW80 vs. MCW60 vs. eVGA FTW block, where the core blocks + unisink were better for GPU temps. So I'd say that, until further notice, core blocks are probably better

[UrbanSmooth]

Or people could just use better performing thermal pads

Interesting point that you bring up there, Vapor. Where can one find premium performance thermal pads?

[Movieman]

So So, but does it really take 3 months and still not have a complete review?
This to me is not acceptable, what are your thoughts?

C'mon Scott.Cut him a little slack huh?
He's a married guy with a more than full time job.
People work on this stuff when they can and also,it's summer time.
People get out more and less time at home..

[Alexandr0s]

Interesting point that you bring up there, Vapor. Where can one find premium performance thermal pads?

I was just about to ask the same thing . Got any good suggestions or a nice review perhaps ?

[JoeBar]

I don't want to drag it further, but i can't prevent myself from letting the community know that i don't like the time the results went public...

[Vapor]

Interesting point that you bring up there, Vapor. Where can one find premium performance thermal pads?

Fujipoly has a zillion options for thermal pads. Not sure where to actually purchase them though...

[Conumdrum]

So So, but does it really take 3 months and still not have a complete review?
This to me is not acceptable, what are your thoughts?

My thought Scott?

Your one of the new 'Give me NOW" generation and have many years left to learn real common sense and courtesy.

You do it next time k?