Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
i think people understand it... its companies that dont WANT to understand this... its companies that create demand for cheating cause they want some guys they can send hardware and get a wr in return... they dont want to play the lottery when sending out samples, they want to BUY a wr pretty much... its only a matter of time until somebody fulfills their demands... if you create a certain environment its all about evolution, only takes some time until somebody adapts to it...
thats not meant as an excuse in any way, dont get me wrong!
im just saying, the problem isnt that much with the community and not entirely with the top enthusiasts, but a big part of it is manufacturers as well, which many people dont seem to realize...
Over the last couple of months I've began to understand exactly what you mean. Now, no one at HWBOT is a miracle worker, so I hope the community understands that whoever screwed up in the past (before hwbot), making manufacturers believe this is the legit way of dealing with the overclocking community, has made these mfcs convinced it can be all for them and nothing for us.

I'm pleased to see that many overclockers and enthusiasts in this thread are sharing your opinion on this topic and are more than willing to call faul play where needed. If it was up to me, things would've been fixed completely by now, but sadly enough I'm just a pion. A few more shocks and we'll get there, I'm sure.

On a sidenote: we also have to realize that some MFCs are turning their way in the right direction. Just think about it ... if someone told you 5 years ago that a major manufacturer would invest a load of money in live overclocking events all around the world, you would have offered him a taxi drive home because he was too drunk to walk home