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    Quote Originally Posted by Linus@ncix View Post
    Primoflex LRT has biocide lining the tubing walls. There is no need to add PT_NUKE or silver.

    My loop has been running over a year with distilled + Primoflex LRT and the water in my res is still clear (and so is my res for that matter).

    It works as advertised. Every extra thing you add to your loop is just asking for trouble.

    how do you know this for sure?

    i have the same tubing and yes you are right about everything being clear but i just thought it was the use of distilled water, i also have silver in my loop...

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    So the 4 screws in the middle that go through the copper block are all you need to unscrew then the block comes apart. I did that but it's tight as can be.. do I just need to pull harder?
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    Sorry to keep this beast kicking but check out this awesome dye gone wrong mess:
    Here's a Swiftech GTX CPU water block that has a non-copper/soft metal in the top that has been reacting with chemicals in the fluid from mixing dyes.
    The gunk:

    The dye alone (covering the pins) would have annoyed me without the gunk:

    With some of the gunk scratched away: north myrtle beach hotels|miami hotel

    With the gunk gone you can see how it was using the metal in the water block as some sort of catalyst eating it as it went:

    Coolant used: PrimoChill Ice Clear
    Dye used: PrimoChill DyeBomb UV Blue (Approx. 1ml due to container breaking)
    Re-Fresh Dye used: Feser View UV Blue (Approx. 10ml)
    Wicked eh? I suggested he come share but I guess he didn't get the link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamTHorn View Post
    Sorry to keep this beast kicking but check out this awesome dye gone wrong mess:

    Wicked eh? I suggested he come share but I guess he didn't get the link?
    I thought this is actually caused by a reaction between aluminium used by the GTX and copper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philwong View Post
    I thought this is actually caused by a reaction between aluminium used by the GTX and copper.

    Phil
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    Wow.. Those pictures are going to make me have nightmares.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section8 View Post
    Wow.. Those pictures are going to make me have nightmares.....
    ive had worse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    ive had worse..

    A lot worse...
    Man I feel for you guys. I am glad I have never had to deal with such a mess. I feel for you guys. Hopefully the OP gets it all cleaned up and doesn't suffer any prolonged effects from that mess.

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    That is plain nasty......

    However there is some good news, I just saved a bunch of cash changing my insurance to Geiko....JK...

    At least the OP's nails are nice and clean......

    Makes me think about the Primo Chill I have in my loop.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Section8 View Post
    Man I feel for you guys. I am glad I have never had to deal with such a mess. I feel for you guys. Hopefully the OP gets it all cleaned up and doesn't suffer any prolonged effects from that mess.
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    really makes me wonder is this just cause off mixing feser with other stuff if so with what did op mix it with ?.

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    Im running Feser one UV blue right now , Im going to disassemble both my loops soon and attempt to open my cpu-350 (last time i tried i couldn't open it)

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    Dam guys thats some nasty stuff, I was using the feser uv blood red for a week but didnt wanna take the chance even with PT nuke so i ended up using distilled + Utopia which is basically the same as PT nuke.. @Naekuh u got pics dude? sounds interesting

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?

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    Any updates for the effect of Feser 1 UV dye? Because I'm going to use Feser 1 for my dual loop and don't want to see many gunks around wc parts
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    Quote Originally Posted by zer0kewl View Post
    really makes me wonder is this just cause off mixing feser with other stuff if so with what did op mix it with ?.
    I'm fairly positive that SNiiPE didn't mix anything else in with it. He also isn't the only one having the problem so it's not an isolated incident.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny87au View Post
    Dam guys thats some nasty stuff, I was using the feser uv blood red for a week but didnt wanna take the chance even with PT nuke so i ended up using distilled + Utopia which is basically the same as PT nuke.. @Naekuh u got pics dude? sounds interesting
    You may want to reconsider using that crap too. It has some form of surfactant (such as Water Wetter), which we stopped using a long time ago as it didn't have any positive impact on the system and long term use showed a slimy buildup on components that was difficult to remove and hurt temps.
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    why not do distilled + a bit of propylene glycol? I have unlike metals in my loop... so without a softener, galvanic corrosion would eat through my rad, in due time.

    E: actually, whatever because that's what i've been doing for years and never had problems. *shrug*

    E2: it's cheap too, you can just buy the green antifreeze. that's what it basically is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggdh View Post
    Get coloured tubing.
    Quote Originally Posted by iddqd View Post
    why not do distilled + a bit of propylene glycol?
    This combination is the ABSOLUTE best there is! I'm surprised people still haven't learned
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    Quote Originally Posted by iddqd View Post
    why not do distilled + a bit of propylene glycol? I have unlike metals in my loop... so without a softener, galvanic corrosion would eat through my rad, in due time.

    E: actually, whatever because that's what i've been doing for years and never had problems. *shrug*

    E2: it's cheap too, you can just buy the green antifreeze. that's what it basically is.
    Mixed metals such as?

    Mixing copper, chrome, nickel, brass, and gold is okay. You won't get corrosion.

    If you have aluminum, that's a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxx View Post
    This combination is the ABSOLUTE best there is! I'm surprised people still haven't learned
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    How is it an absolute best? In temps vs distilled?

    Btw, something about the stuff.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/023138_pr...od_health.html

    Also, mixing all the metals are fine except for AL as Polizei has mentioned.

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    so getting any kind off corosion is just imposible without corosion protection like when you got copper rad some nickel + bras fittings etc.

    cous i'm thinking about going demi + killcoil atm ;P

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    Distilled+glycol if you have mixed metals

    Distilled+silver(killcoil) if you dont have mixed metals.
    Quote Originally Posted by zer0kewl View Post
    so getting any kind off corosion is just imposible without corosion protection like when you got copper rad some nickel + bras fittings etc.

    cous i'm thinking about going demi + killcoil atm ;P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterlogged View Post
    I'm fairly positive that SNiiPE didn't mix anything else in with it. He also isn't the only one having the problem so it's not an isolated incident.



    You may want to reconsider using that crap too. It has some form of surfactant (such as Water Wetter), which we stopped using a long time ago as it didn't have any positive impact on the system and long term use showed a slimy buildup on components that was difficult to remove and hurt temps.
    oh you serious? the store i got it from recommended me it, You think just stick with PT nuke yeah?

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxx View Post
    This combination is the ABSOLUTE best there is! I'm surprised people still haven't learned
    Glycol is toxic, and reduces the efficiency somewhat. It's not as much antimicrobial as silver or copper. And since it's an alcohol, it destroys acrylic and generally doesnt play well with plastics (even tubing not meant for it).
    Unless you need its antifreeze properties (in which case you know what you are doing playing with a chiller) it's not a good solution for room temperature pc watercooling.

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