Quote Originally Posted by ElSel10 View Post
I love how people complain about a $230 card that can match or get close to GTX470 ($350) performance when overclocked. Obviously if you overclock the GTX470 it will still be faster. It's got more memory, more memory bandwidth, more SPs, and probably more ROPs. What were you expecting, an overclocked GTX460 matching an overclocked GTX470?

Even if the retail cards don't overclock quite as well as this reviewed card, if they can still get close to a GTX470 that's still awesome! And by the way, the GTX480, 470 and 465 all seem to have remained good overclockers even after having been in retail for some time.
Color me jaded but I am going based off of what was said. They said the GF104 would be the next "8800GT". That simply is not true, this is card is more akin to the 9600GT than the 8800GT.

The 8800GT was comparable to the 8800GTX clock for clock; we're not seeing anything close in that regard, this chip in no way has clock parity between it and the GTX480.

Best case scenerio we are talking matching the GTX470 @ stock and possibly the GTX480 stock at a 1/3 clock disparity. That puts this card on par with what the 9600GT did, not the 8800GT.

We are simply commenting on the misleading infomation put out about this card. What we are concerned by is the large gap needed to match an already excellent bang for buck chip for maybe $80 more. Lets be realistic here; the GTX470 is not a $399 card or even a $350 card, every day I look at it there seems to be a constant creep down to $300. Heck compusa was selling evga chips for $329.

As of right now I fail to see why this chip is desirable at its current price point. Now if this were a $200 card? Big difference, but at $250? Thats HD5850 territory there and under no circumstance do I see this being a contender to the 5850 even if it could routinely overclock to 900mhz (which I highly doubt)

Im betting most people overclocking this card are going to see 750-800mhz like most of us are and more than likely at a ~200W range. This card's only saving grace will be its memory clock. If this thing cant get to over 4ghz overclocked there is no way I can see this chip surviving at its price point against a price dropped HD5850.