[Computex 2010]AMD to show Fusion tomorrow

[terrace215]

If that was indeed Ontario, then that is quite impressive, barring the use of any kind of trickery. The rest of the presentation sucked though. 30 seconds out of an hour of PR BS isn't exactly the way to hold my interest.

Yeah, the whole hiding the system behind a curtain, supposedly out of competitive fears (!), is nonsense. They claim it was an Ontario system... ok, show us the laptop, desktop, whatever, that is running it, as you run it. What possible information is kept secure by hiding the system behind a curtain!?

And not even ballparking the power usage? Even relative to something else?

That leaves us with: An unverified system using unknown power that can run a dx11 game. Great?

They also didn't want photos of the wafer... ok, fine, that one I can understand.

The last time they pulled this sort of thing was before the ill-fated Barcelona launch... remember the "3GHz Quadcore Demo" ? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/ou/getting...core-demos/641

[Solus Corvus]

Sure dude, keep up with the conspiracy theories.

[Manicdan]

if they dont have a real system built, power consumption can be way off. no point asking for that since each board will give different results, especially a large test board vs an actual laptop

[MrMojoZ]

Sure dude, keep up with the conspiracy theories.

Hey now, you can't just let people post AMD threads without at least attempting to toss in a few jabs. Have to keep them in there place.

[LowRun]

Yeah, the whole hiding the system behind a curtain, supposedly out of competitive fears (!), is nonsense. They claim it was an Ontario system... ok, show us the laptop, desktop, whatever, that is running it, as you run it. What possible information is kept secure by hiding the system behind a curtain!?

And not even ballparking the power usage? Even relative to something else?

That leaves us with: An unverified system using unknown power that can run a dx11 game. Great?

They also didn't want photos of the wafer... ok, fine, that one I can understand.

The last time they pulled this sort of thing was before the ill-fated Barcelona launch... remember the "3GHz Quadcore Demo" ? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/ou/getting...core-demos/641

Seriously dude you're such an entertainer

[Aerwidh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5mKP5R8B8

Ooh, a better quality video
Thanks!

Gameplay seems a bit choppy, the framerate can't be very good. Would have been nice to know resolution and stuff like that...

[Manicdan]

Ooh, a better quality video
Thanks!

Gameplay seems a bit choppy, the framerate can't be very good. Would have been nice to know resolution and stuff like that...

looks like 10-30 FPS, averaging a little under 20. and resolution seems 720p. still thats very pretty looking considering whats running it.

[terrace215]

Sure dude, keep up with the conspiracy theories.

Why hide the system behind a curtain? What's the non-conspiratorial reasoning behind that decision?

[Solus Corvus]

He slipped up and called it a video. There may not have been a system there at all. Does that make any of your conspiracy theories more likely? Not really.

[Helmore]

The last time they pulled this sort of thing was before the ill-fated Barcelona launch... remember the "3GHz Quadcore Demo"?

You're forgetting Evergreen and RV770. AMD has been very very secretive these last couple of years. I simply think that they don't want to give too much information to their competition.

[hurleybird]

He slipped up and called it a video. There may not have been a system there at all. Does that make any of your conspiracy theories more likely? Not really.

if it was a video, it wouldn't have been choppy... unless its a video of a real fusion processor running the game.

[Solus Corvus]

if it was a video, it wouldn't have been choppy... unless its a video of a real fusion processor running the game.

Well if it was something other then a real fusion processor running it there or a pre-recorded video of a real fusion processor running it then:

[informal]

Seriously dude you're such an entertainer

But it's such fun reading those posts ain't it ? Feels like X-Files all over again

Well if it was something other then a real fusion processor running it there or a pre-recorded video of a real fusion processor running it then:

He just made a lapse... Both designs are being sampled to costumers now so there is no logic to do that.

[=SOC= Admiral]

Yeah, the whole hiding the system behind a curtain, supposedly out of competitive fears (!), is nonsense. They claim it was an Ontario system... ok, show us the laptop, desktop, whatever, that is running it, as you run it. What possible information is kept secure by hiding the system behind a curtain!?

And not even ballparking the power usage? Even relative to something else?

That leaves us with: An unverified system using unknown power that can run a dx11 game. Great?

They also didn't want photos of the wafer... ok, fine, that one I can understand.

The last time they pulled this sort of thing was before the ill-fated Barcelona launch... remember the "3GHz Quadcore Demo" ? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/ou/getting...core-demos/641

I just want to confirm something. Would you be doing the exact same thing you are now if it was Intel and not AMD?

[slaveondope]

That demo looked much better than Intels Sandy Bridge imo

[Hornet331]

That demo looked much better than Intels Sandy Bridge imo

Well there wasn't really much info on sandy bridge anyway but Mooly Eden hinted that we'll see more (and especial more technical stuff) at the next IDF in frisco.

Anyone knows amd has a event up for themself where they'll reveal more usefull stuff?

[haylui]

Well there wasn't really much info on sandy bridge anyway but Mooly Eden hinted that we'll see more (and especial more technical stuff) at the next IDF in frisco.

Anyone knows amd has a event up for themself where they'll reveal more usefull stuff?

but comparing the demo itself, AMD demo certainly is better than Intel SB;
don't forget, AMD is using Ontario to run the demo while Intel is running it with their next gen CPU, SB

[DedEmbryonicCe1]

For those that skipped through the less exciting parts of the full video here are two highlights I caught:

• "Vision Black" Black Edition notebook processors with unlocked multipliers
• Quad-cores starting at 25W

[Clairvoyant129]

I thought it is way better than Intel SB demo?
Intel demos un-comparable screen for SB and i7 with discreet graphic card...lol

Yea but anything Intel puts out (no matter what it is) would have been lame for you.

[Shadov]

Yea but anything Intel puts out (no matter what it is) would have been lame for you.

While you feel entitled to the same comments just the other way around...

Anyway, in all fairness AMD has shown us an APU capable of DX11 graphics. Intel is not even close with their CPU + GPU approach.

[ilkkahy]

When amd bought ati their stock price plummeted ever since (actually it may have started months before the purchase). I think its only fair that they finally start to get some fruits of that huge investment.

Its easy to foresee that demand for this kind of chip could be huge? I read that amd has delivered 11 million dx11 chips. Im lookin forward to see how many Fusion chips there have been sold in couple of years from now.

[railer]

terrace215 you are not seriously implying that AMD has some hidden wood screws here? While there is some validity to your questions and we would like to see the system board Fusion is running on and its TDP, its hard to imagine that company like AMD would only have bluff on their hands.

Also as Shadov pointed out this is the first APU that we see working. Don't underestimate the importance of this. While its no secret that Intel cpu's and their manufacturing process are bit ahead of AMD right now being first with most efficient APU could propel AMD to gain lots of market share in the future.
Got to see the writing on the wall. Within 5-8 years dedicated GPU's could very well be the thing of the past. And as technology progress fusing both cpu and gpu is the only logical outcome. That is why Nvidia is going nuts and Intel will never cancel Larrabe.

Actually AMD is kind of nicely position for the future as they have ATi expertise in GPU's, Intel giving its size will figure it out but things look grim for the green team. If there is no game changer Nvidia could simply become irrelevant in a decade as APU's take over.

Now hows that for conspiracy theory?

[Florinmocanu]

shhhh, don't tell anything terrace215 shouldn't need to know, a conspiracy stops being one if we tell the what will happen....

[Helmore]

Got to see the writing on the wall. Within 5-8 years dedicated GPU's could very well be the thing of the past. And as technology progress fusing both cpu and gpu is the only logical outcome. That is why Nvidia is going nuts and Intel will never cancel Larrabe.

I don't think that discrete GPUs will go away within the next 10 years. The market for low budget discrete GPUs will shrink a lot, if not just disappear, but the kind of GPUs that we currently have at the ~$80 mark and up are here to stay.

[Florinmocanu]

I think that is true. The need for really powerful GPUs will remain in the future, the 100$ market and up is here to stay, i cannot imagine how someone could implement for example a GPU the size of 5870 with a CPU onto the same die and keep it under 100W, it's just not possible.