[NEW STUFF] Intel LGA1155

[Vozer]

Yet another :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

Great, JC. I expected you to bring some Sandy Bridge :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

[K404]

I dont like Intels increasing number of sockets. Its not good for users.

I like the idea of low BCLK It means higher multis and we know what the BCLK is capable of... so we can aim at higher clockspeeds with less expensive CPUs As long as high RAM multis are there too, its all good

[ottoyu34]

For the guys still wondering why Intel is changing a socket so soon.

Take a deep breath and think about it. By the time these new CPU & chipsets are released (Q3,2011).

We have been using Core i7 for 3 years.

[K404]

Why have 1156 to move to 1155? Thats clearly just taking the mick. Would the 1156 socket REALLY not do the job?

[Eastcoasthandle]

Bad move changing the socket again. This time there is no legitimate reason to do so. There is nothing special about the cpu that warranted the change.

[SnipingWaste]

This could be there answer to fix the socket burn problem.

[Cooper]

Intel has been changing sockets/chipsets/VRMs with almost every new CPU arch/revision.
Why are you complaining again ? Intel just wants their money back for R&D/marketing/execs bonuses

[RejZoR]

They were? Do you know for how long LGA775 lasted? It was Pentium 4 when LGA775 was available. And up to Core 2 Quad series. So that's light years from "on each CPU release"... And then they started with LGA1156 and LGA1366. And now again changing just 1 pin because of what?!?!?!!? That's just stupid, why don't they just solder the CPU on a board in such case, it would make absolutely no difference if you have to change it anyway.

I like the way AMD is going at the momemnt. AM sockets are quite compatible between eachother and that's good.

[Cooper]

They were? Do you know for how long LGA775 lasted? It was Pentium 4 when LGA775 was available. And up to Core 2 Quad series. So that's light years from "on each CPU release"... And then they started with LGA1156 and LGA1366. And now again changing just 1 pin because of what?!?!?!!? That's just stupid, why don't they just solder the CPU on a board in such case, it would make absolutely no difference if you have to change it anyway.

I like the way AMD is going at the momemnt. AM sockets are quite compatible between eachother and that's good.

well check the CPU compatability between different chipsets for socket 775. Ho many times Intel changed the VRMs forcing people to change their older 775 boards to a newer ?

[K404]

Intel has been changing sockets/chipsets/VRMs with almost every new CPU arch/revision.
Why are you complaining again ? Intel just wants their money back for R&D/marketing/execs bonuses

1366 was R+D'd. 1156 didnt take so much. 1155 I suspect even less. What R+D costs are they re-couping? 1366 alone has paid for all of Nehalem + derivatives.

Making money.... fine.

Giving us new things... fine.

Forcing upgrades for no reason..... not fine.

I would like to see someone design an intercoupling PCB to let 1155 chips work on 1156 boards. Might render some HSF useless but seeing as im sure this socket will bring a new set of mounting holes,* theres no big deal there either.



* go on... explain to me why 775, 1366 and 1156 need different mounting hole spacing. Intel arent even profiting from 3rd-party HSF sales.


OR ARE THEY?

[Cooper]

Well I'm sure Dr.Who can give us a broad explanation why they had to move the holes 1/2mm apart for LGA1366/1156 but yeah I find this absolutely useless and ridiculous waste with all the enormous park of LGA775 heatsinks out there. Go figure...

[Olivon]

No bench this time JC ?

[ajaidev]

I have been told that 1155 was important to support special power saving features and another thing that will decrease production cost compared to 1155 chips

[[XC] gomeler]

All I see in this thread is moan moan whine. Yes LGA775 was around for a long time but you couldn't use an early LGA775 board with later CPUs... the only useful thing was the fact that you could re-use the heatsink. I agree that it is dumb to constantly change the mounting holes but complaining about different sockets for the sake of complaining is a waste of time.

I guess me complaining about you guys complaining is just as bad though

Can we see some benchmarks? Super Pi, 3DVantage, and Cinebench R11.5?

[WhiteFireDragon]

socket change might be necessary because sandy bridge now has on die GPU and memory controller.

[jcool]

I would get worked up about Intel going from 1156 to 1155. Except I couldn't care less. I never liked 1156, and to this day still don't like it. This Clarkdale stuff is something I might want in my HTPC or Subnotebook, but that's it really.
I think LGA1366 is great, yet already old. By the time it's gonna be replaced (Q3 2011), it's gonna be REALLY old. And 32nm Hexas run fine even on boards from 2008, so everything is fine in the high end world. Which means everything is fine with me

[terrace215]

Way to ruin a thread with SocketWhiner(tm) spam.

[terrace215]

Anyway we can validate this? I could be wrong, not having looked too much into SB, but isn't 100 mhz too low for the bus speed? I thought it was the same 133 as before? Also what happened to the massive l3 cache?

Truly massive L3's are on the high-end desktop / workstation / server parts with 6-8 cores.

[Hannibal Lecter]

I would get worked up about Intel going from 1156 to 1155. Except I couldn't care less. I never liked 1156, and to this day still don't like it. This Clarkdale stuff is something I might want in my HTPC or Subnotebook, but that's it really.
I think LGA1366 is great, yet already old. By the time it's gonna be replaced (Q3 2011), it's gonna be REALLY old. And 32nm Hexas run fine even on boards from 2008, so everything is fine in the high end world. Which means everything is fine with me

I couldn't have said it better

Plus anyone reading these forums knew that 1156 was a dead end as early as late 2008 beginning 2009. So what's the big surprise

[saaya]

I hate u JC, i was told to wait for 2 months to get my ES officially

pff, you think jc stole it or bought it in some backalley?

stop whining! getting it in 2 months is still very sweet man! id kill for a laptop with dualcore sandy

[saaya]

This Clarkdale stuff is something I might want in my HTPC or Subnotebook, but that's it really.

in a subnotebook its actually not that good, cause it offers more perf at the same battery life at best, and in many scenarios more performance at worse battery life... but what 80% of laptop users want is battery life... not performance...

4 threads on a laptop are nice, or even 8... but would you sacrifice 2-4h battery life for that? see what i mean? after atom everybody got a taste of how awesome long battery life is, but perf sucked... then along came CULV, but it ended up too slow for most people... clarkdale brings higher performance, but also worse battery life, so its actually one step forward, two steps back...

but most of that is because of the 45nm GMCH, which on sandybridge is 32nm and merged into the die... and it hopefully has some REAL power management now, so im hoping for notably reduced power consumption...

sandybridge should be awesome for laptops!

Thx a lot for this JC!
heres this is for you

[bamtan2]

intel has been switching sockets willy-nilly since the beginning. they do it because they can... or is the reader going to protest this time? doubt it

[HelixPC]

1156 was sucha waste imo, never took off, all my resellers are sitting on 1156 cpu's and boards.

[radaja]

Way to ruin a thread with SocketWhiner(tm) spam.

agreed

all the complaining about a new socket is so tiresome.might as well
start complaining about intel even bringing any new hardware to the market

"oh great,another new cpu?what the hell intel? i just bought an i7-920,now i need to get an i7-930?
why so many cpu's?wait what?theres a new 32nm 6 core?980x?oh great,now i need to buy this?"

[Mumak]

just wanted to say the same! Agree

Also guys.. when blaming companies like Intel for certain conceptual decisions, you don't seem to realise how important role play the strategic customers to those decisions. It's not a thing like Intel the sole player ruling the future.
I hope, this is the end of "why?" discussion and let's continue being technical about this new platform.

agreed

all the complaining about a new socket is so tiresome.might as well
start complaining about intel even bringing any new hardware to the market

"oh great,another new cpu?what the hell intel? i just bought an i7-920,now i need to get an i7-930?
why so many cpu's?wait what?theres a new 32nm 6 core?980x?oh great,now i need to buy this?"