Confirmed: Feser 1 Blue Premix + GTZ = do NOT want

[Sadasius]

Primoflex LRT has biocide lining the tubing walls. There is no need to add PT_NUKE or silver.

My loop has been running over a year with distilled + Primoflex LRT and the water in my res is still clear (and so is my res for that matter).

It works as advertised. Every extra thing you add to your loop is just asking for trouble.

Yup I have noticed that as well with the Primo LRT black. Just used distilled and no additives. However the tubes insides still turn white no matter what the tubing or what water treatment. That part is still a mystery to me.

[tidal]

I've been running Feser One Blue and Feser One Red on two loops in my machine and I have yet to encounter any problems whatsoever. The machine has been either gaming or folding 24/7 for 6+ months and everything is still clean as a whistle. I wonder how well a lot of these people cleaned their radiators and parts before they put the system together. I read this thread and many others like it for weeks before I redid my loops and settled on the Feser fluid. My conclusion? dirty parts are putting gunk into the loops and the water blocks are just filtering it out.

The only coolant I've seen problems with is with PC Ice and those terrible dye bombs. I had an old bottle of premix PC Ice for YEARS and the dye never came out of solution. Had one bottle with a blue dye bomb and it settled out within a week. Now it just sits in my closet with all the dye at the bottom.

Of course, your mileage may (and will) vary, and this is just my experience, but I wanted to weigh in on this.

[blackvette94]

Primoflex LRT has biocide lining the tubing walls. There is no need to add PT_NUKE or silver.

My loop has been running over a year with distilled + Primoflex LRT and the water in my res is still clear (and so is my res for that matter).

It works as advertised. Every extra thing you add to your loop is just asking for trouble.

Hi Linus! Got a question for you, I am going to use the Primoflex LRT tubing in my loop with distilled water. But my Feser rads say that my warranty is void if I use distilled water because it doesn't have a corrosion blocker. Now my 480 Feser came with a corrosion blocker solution.

Would it be ok to use the water blocks and rads after flushing with distilled water and then add this whole bottle of corrosion blocker with distilled water?

I don't want to mess this up, any help would be great!!

[Waterlogged]

Hi Linus! Got a question for you, I am going to use the Primoflex LRT tubing in my loop with distilled water. But my Feser rads say that my warranty is void if I use distilled water because it doesn't have a corrosion blocker. Now my 480 Feser came with a corrosion blocker solution.

Would it be ok to use the water blocks and rads after flushing with distilled water and then add this whole bottle of corrosion blocker with distilled water?

I don't want to mess this up, any help would be great!!

Corrosion is only a problem when you are using aluminum in a loop with copper/brass. That crap you got with the rad is just under 70% ethylene glycol. On top of the "nasty stuff" in the link, it also hurts thermal transfer to the water due to a much lower thermal capacity.

[blackvette94]

Corrosion is only a problem when you are using aluminum in a loop with copper/brass. That crap you got with the rad is just under 70% ethylene glycol. On top of the "nasty stuff" in the link, it also hurts thermal transfer to the water due to a much lower thermal capacity.

Ah, so in other words I don't need to use the Feser corrosion crap right ? :P

[millertime359]

Ah, so in other words I don't need to use the Feser corrosion crap right ? :P

Chances are very high that you don't as most all blocks and rads are copper, nickel, or brass.

[owned666]

is the problem just with feser coolants

is the Aquatuning Protect UV Blue safe to use or should i just go distilled

[Conumdrum]

Owned666?

Yep, distilled is best. Any dye stuff can give you issues. Moe often than not experianced watercoolers use distilled for ease of use. Some custom builders that always rebuild etc use colored stuff, but they know the pitfalls and accept the fact.

It's up to you.

[jVIDIA]

Destiled Water + Silver KillCoil FTW! :

[QuantumPion]

Hi, I recently finished my first WC build. I was using Feser UV dye additive to my distilled water + PTnuke PHN but after reading this thread I drained my loop and refilled it with just distilled + PTnuke. I really liked the look of the UV dye but I guess I'll just replace the tubing with some UV tubing later on instead. Anyways, do you think I need to take apart my loop and clean the various parts out to get any remaining dye out? Or would the small residual amount not be a concern? I have a Apogee XT cpu block and a MCR-320 rad in my loop with a D5 pump and a microres. I notice that there does seem to be some uv-reactive film in my reservoir where the top level of water used to sit and I wonder if there may be more of that stuff in my cpu block or rad.

[345T4R]

distilled water, one of the best and cheapest cooling coolants
//but I thought feser is specialized in coolant?!

[rheydt]

you are damnly right, they are specialized in coolant, which damage our water cooling systems, like fotos show! Strange thing is, there are still some shops selling their liquid!

[Kvickstick]

Ive had my Faser One UV Red (Premix) coolant in my loop for 6 months. Took it apart yesterday without any signs of gunkg in my blocks :/

[Dazmode]

I have use both, distilled in two of my rigs and F1 in other two, one of them is folding. Still can't make them gunk. I think the problem is with mixing with other coolants or additives (which I don't do) and proper loop maintenance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwQDLeCz9FI

[NaMcO]

you are damnly right, they are specialized in coolant, which damage our water cooling systems, like fotos show! Strange thing is, there are still some shops selling their liquid!

I've been using Feser all my watercooling life (over 8 years) with ZERO issues whatsoever. One of my loops lasted 3 years and only showed minor degradation (some sort of algae?) when i took it apart - It was still working perfectly anyway. Go figure.

[Kvickstick]

I have use both, distilled in two of my rigs and F1 in other two, one of them is folding. Still can't make them gunk. I think the problem is with mixing with other coolants or additives (which I don't do) and proper loop maintenance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwQDLeCz9FI

Valid point. Thanks for the video.

[Sadasius]

6 month test on the EK Supreme HF..Hmmm How long has the HF been around now? Has 6 months gone by already? Just asking as I honestly do not know. Time flies when you get old you know...

[Dazmode]

6 month test on the EK Supreme HF..Hmmm How long has the HF been around now? Has 6 months gone by already? Just asking as I honestly do not know. Time flies when you get old you know...

Not HF, Supreme Classic

[Sadasius]

Ah okay...Oh and BTW Dazmode...Love that HF block I bought from you! Cannot be happier!

[Waterlogged]

I've been using Feser all my watercooling life (over 8 years) with ZERO issues whatsoever. One of my loops lasted 3 years and only showed minor degradation (some sort of algae?) when i took it apart - It was still working perfectly anyway. Go figure.

You sure about this? I don't recall ever hearing of Fester until about 3 years ago and I've been water cooling since '03. The date on their site also seems to confirm the 3yr thing as well. Judging by your prior posts involving Fester, this post looks pretty much like a broken record. It also looks like your trying to do "damage control" for Fester which, in my book at least, warrants me shouting "SHILL".

[turtletrax]

Not HF, Supreme Classic

Great to see you here Daz!!! On my 5870 with the EK FC block I got from you right now Idles at 22c

[xguntherc]

How do I take apart the GTZ for cleaning. I took the 4 screws around it out and thats just for the hold down plates?? it's been on a distilled + silver coil loop for over a year and I'm about to readd it to my loop. Any advice on cleaning, or rinsing? i guess I don't need to take it apart. Looks clean inside but I'd like to rinse it. Whats the best idea and way.

thanks!

[Waterlogged]

How do I take apart the GTZ for cleaning. I took the 4 screws around it out and thats just for the hold down plates?? it's been on a distilled + silver coil loop for over a year and I'm about to readd it to my loop. Any advice on cleaning, or rinsing? i guess I don't need to take it apart. Looks clean inside but I'd like to rinse it. Whats the best idea and way.

thanks!

That should be all you need to do.

[NaMcO]

You sure about this? I don't recall ever hearing of Fester until about 3 years ago and I've been water cooling since '03. The date on their site also seems to confirm the 3yr thing as well. Judging by your prior posts involving Fester, this post looks pretty much like a broken record. It also looks like your trying to do "damage control" for Fester which, in my book at least, warrants me shouting "SHILL".

My guess is i used something similar prior to that and don't even recall. I have been watercooling for as long as you and never had an issue with any coolant until today. I'm sorry for my mistake on the dates.

I don't have anything to do with FESER nor do i want to protect them in any way but the truth is i never had any problems with them, it's weird that so many people do. Think what you will, i'll keep using FESER as it's good and it does the job well done until something else worthwhile appears and makes me change

[charles_h]

My guess is i used something similar prior to that and don't even recall. I have been watercooling for as long as you and never had an issue with any coolant until today. I'm sorry for my mistake on the dates.

I don't have anything to do with FESER nor do i want to protect them in any way but the truth is i never had any problems with them, it's weird that so many people do. Think what you will, i'll keep using FESER as it's good and it does the job well done until something else worthwhile appears and makes me change

For what its worth, I'm in the same boat as NaMcO.

I've been using Feser One coolant for 3 years and have never had any problems with it; other than maybe the "black" not being black nor the "red" not being red. I just did an upgrade on a two year old machine running the UV green and was very impressed to see no residue in the blocks - even the Tygon tubing was still perfectly clear!

I don't know what conditions would cause the problems folks are having but until I see anything lumpy myself, I'll continue using it - for blue and green themes anyway.

Oh, i is not a Shill.