ATI Hint at NO Price Drop

[SKYMTL]

Several retailers have hinted at price INCREASES for these cards due to diminishing supply.

[FischOderAal]

I don't see how this means that AMD/ATI is complacent (nice word)? Every company prices their product according to what people are willing to pay.

[onethreehill]

Several retailers have hinted at price INCREASES for these cards due to diminishing supply.

I heard 5850 and 5870 prices going up by US$15 and US$10 respectively

[SKYMTL]

I heard 5850 and 5870 prices going up by US$15 and US$10 respectively

Same here but I actually heard the possibility of the HD 5870 going up by ~$20 and it hitting major supply issues through the next few months at least.

Basically, the price increase is being used as a way for retailers to control their inventories and is not being done on the behest of ATI...as far as I know.

[annihilat0r]

From what it looks like, Fermi isn't as bad as people claimed but the $450/$550 prices are high. At $400/$500 Fermi would be OK, and even this wouldn't force ATI to drop prices.

470 performs equal to 5870, has more features but draws more power, which means a 5870 level price is justified. And if at %25 faster than 5870, a 480 at $500 is good too. But like I said, even those prices wouldn't force ATI to a price drop.

[saaya]

who would have thought that ati fans would be the ones suffering the most of nvidias fermi failure
funny

[Sushi Warrior]

Well, ATI started being really profitable and obviously they don't want to go back.... Nvidia is not the only big-bad corporation :P

[iTravis]

Well, ATI started being really profitable and obviously they don't want to go back.... Nvidia is not the only big-bad corporation :P

It's just too obvious, you can't put "big corporation" and "good" on the same sentence, welcome to capitalism.
Back on topic, this is just depressing as they're not only going to drop but increase the price.

[Manicdan]

nvidia is ofcourse going to release the cards priced a little higher than whats recommended, simply to sell them to the fans who will be willing to pay top dollar. then after a few weeks they will come down once demand has leveled off. AMD has no reason to lower prices because they trying to get out a few more expensive cards at the same time to compete (5870 Six), so they will do the same thing, keep it higher at first.

by June 1st i would expect both companies to come down by 10-20%, but as long as stronger cards are launching, they wont.

god it seems the best time to buy stuff was last summer, since then everything except CPUs have just had horrible pricing trends

[jmke]

hahah, this made me lol

http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f...me-news-71015/



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[ripken204]

Ditto.

Guess it means another 6 months of waiting for us poor college student folk.

same here

[labs23]

same here

And here.

With Fermi in limbo, plus this increase,.
And its already vacation in here, it should've been a nice timing for a shiny new card, and a month just gaming.
*Stickin with my GTX275*

[Trembledust]

Doubt they'll have a price increase.... the cards are already above MSRP.

This is odd, might be the first time a card STAYS over MSRP after 6 months on the market... bizzarro world but if the Google prices are correct, then at $450/$500, a 5870 (which seems to beat a 470) at $400 means there's no reason for the price to go down AT ALL!

Bad news for those looking for bargains.

OTOH wasn't Shane baxtor the guy who claimed MSRP of the GTX 470 was to be $299? Maybe he'll be wrong about this too!

Then u have the non reference 5 series cards coming out with 2gbs of ram with allegedly crazy oc headroom (MSI Lighting, Asus Matrix). Be funny if those cards retail as much as a reference gtx 480 / 470.

[Mungri]

who would have thought that ati fans would be the ones suffering the most of nvidias fermi failure
funny

I want a £475 max 5970 dammit

Could preorder one for £499, but that is still too much.

I think the GTX 470 might be an attractive upgrade instead.

(I just want to sell my magical clocking and nicely modified V1 5770s for a nice price )

[cadaveca]

Prices are going up due to TSMC again(though not really TSMC's fault):

TSMC official statement:

Hsinchu, Taiwan, R.O.C. – March 4, 2010 – TSMC (TWSE: 2330, NYSE: TSM) today announced that an earthquake of magnitude 6.4 on the Richter scale occurred in south Taiwan at 8:18 am Taiwan local time on March 4. The earthquake registered on instruments at TSMC's Tainan site at magnitude 5, and was measured at TSMC’s Hsinchu site at magnitude 2.
Current assessments reports show that the earthquake had minimal impact on Hsinchu fabs. While Tainan fabs suffered greater impact, they have gradually begun to resume production. Our initial estimate is that the earthquake caused the equivalent of 1.5 days loss of wafer movement for the company in total.

http://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRLis...=E&newsid=4641

Expect gpu shortages until May.

[Mungri]

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I actually laughed so hard that tears came out of my eyes

[ColonelCain]

Kinda sad since the prices were increased since demand outstripped supply, and now 1) Supply is much better and 2) Competition will be arriving soon.

[Tomasis]

who would have thought that ati fans would be the ones suffering the most of nvidias fermi failure
funny

how about nvidia fans? they got only crap since g80 and they have no chance to pick up any ATI im glad i last time used Riva TNT2

[freeloader]

Ditto.

Guess it means another 6 months of waiting for us poor college student folk.

To hell with that. Grab two used 4870's for about $200 and you're set for at least another year or so. I've seen some 4870's go for $80 used. Sure they consume a few more watts, but you can't beat 'em for the price.

[JaD]

Same here but I actually heard the possibility of the HD 5870 going up by ~$20 and it hitting major supply issues through the next few months at least.

Basically, the price increase is being used as a way for retailers to control their inventories and is not being done on the behest of ATI...as far as I know.

If they actually increased 5870 prices, the Eyefinity6 would end up at GTX480 levels. I don't see much sense in doing so unless Fermi availability really is as inconsistent as initially rumored.

[zanzabar]

If they actually increased 5870 prices, the Eyefinity6 would end up at GTX480 levels. I don't see much sense in doing so unless Fermi availability really is as inconsistent as initially rumored.

there is that whole thing on running 6 monitors, and the fermi will not be tomuch faster if at all, and once u oc a 5870 it should be better. atleast thats what the preliminary numbers show

[Manicdan]

Prices are going up due to TSMC again(though not really TSMC's fault):

TSMC official statement:



http://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRLis...=E&newsid=4641

Expect gpu shortages until May.

so they just stopped for a day, not that they lost months worth of wafers due to damage?

[Chumbucket843]

Ati 4870 hits. Nvidia forced to halve prices to unprofitable levels.

GTX 480 hits, Ati goes 'meh'. Doesn't bat eyelid

we are consumers so it is in our best interest to want a price drop, not what is best for a corporation. i cant think of this as a good thing from my perspective because i would like a new card at a reasonable price.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Doubt they'll have a price increase.... the cards are already above MSRP.

This is odd, might be the first time a card STAYS over MSRP after 6 months on the market... bizzarro world but if the Google prices are correct, then at $450/$500, a 5870 (which seems to beat a 470) at $400 means there's no reason for the price to go down AT ALL!

Bad news for those looking for bargains.

OTOH wasn't Shane baxtor the guy who claimed MSRP of the GTX 470 was to be $299? Maybe he'll be wrong about this too!

and if that were coming from Nvidia the flaming here would be insane.

I'm still wondering what happened to that we won't sell any video cards for more than $599 comment.

[cadaveca]

so they just stopped for a day, not that they lost months worth of wafers due to damage?

I hear they lost the wafers already in production( no numbers on how many wafers were lost though), plus the lost time. This is why Fermi is delayed a week, and ATi stock is expected to be affected worse than nV's.


PCPerspectives reports shortages until May from both parties, hence everyone else saying kinda similar stuff(on thier podcast). Personally, I was expecting this of Fermi any way, due to the launch being @ a lan, rather than an industry event.

I guess the coming months may tell teh truth, but I expect retailer's to gouge just because they'll be slightly more tight on actual boxed units.