Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

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[pr@$r1g]

It seems like USERs of this thread(UD5,EXt) have turned to UD7 ................

No Complaints m8's ...................... its all for g00dness

Just released bios for UD5 & EXt F12 seems to be STABLE than F11

I flashed my UD5 to EXt ............. better than before

check my sig guys

[Kougar]

I need a spot of help, can someone point out to me where I can measure the RAM voltages for the X58 boards? Specific model being the UD5. I measured everything I could find but didn't spot anything that was close to the RAM voltages at the time.

My UD5 managed to cook the memory controllers on my 920 and the CPU is now almost useless, I'm not very happy and it has proven to be a of a time to figure out. Given I stayed within the 0.5v Vtt/RAM difference recommended by major sites I need to confirm what voltages this board is really giving....

[Hornet331]

Since the UD5 and the Extreme are the same:

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/revie...html#post44179

here you go...

[Kougar]

Since the UD5 and the Extreme are the same:

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/revie...html#post44179

here you go...

Thanks a bunch!

I'm undervolting the heck out of my RAM to ensure it doesn't happen again, if I set to 1.60v it gives 1.622v under load. I need to test it at the 1.66v setting though to see if the gap widens any further. There has to be some reason the memory controllers on my chip fried so prematurely.

[donmarkoni]

Hi! I'm new to Gigabyte. Didn't read whole thread (170+ pages ), but if I understand correctly UD5 and Extreme are almost the same, right? What I mean is that I can cross-flash BIOS, no?
EDIT: I should change my sig...

[Lsdmeasap]

Yes, it can be done (Voids Warranty if you have issues though), you must also find the correct tool to do so with

[ford77]

Hi All!

I have EX58-UD5 with 12 gig corsair dominator.
BIOS: F10, cpu: i7 950.

The problem is I can`t get it work with the ram running at 1600mhz, only 1066.
I can only use bios optimized defaults, but thats below even factory defaults.

Could anybody help or suggest an in depth guide to set BIOS for this configuration please?
I`m noob to bios settings and don`t understand most of the terms like QPI, uncore, etc...

thank you!

[Andrea deluxe]

Hi All!

I have EX58-UD5 with 12 gig corsair dominator.
BIOS: F10, cpu: i7 950.

The problem is I can`t get it work with the ram running at 1600mhz, only 1066.
I can only use bios optimized defaults, but thats below even factory defaults.

Could anybody help or suggest an in depth guide to set BIOS for this configuration please?
I`m noob to bios settings and don`t understand most of the terms like QPI, uncore, etc...

thank you!

set v-qpi to 1.34v and retry

[ford77]

Thanks for the reply!

Currently I have these settings:
Cpu clock ......... 23x
QPI ................. 36x
unCore ............ 24x
SPD ................ 12.0

I found these values (I don`t know what they mean):
QPI/vtt ............1.175
CPU pll ............ 1.800
IOH ................ 1.100
DRAM ............. 1.500
Command rate .. 2

ram: 8 8 8 20

...and a lot more setting, which I leave on optimized defaults.

this is set by optimized defaults.
I only tried to set the uncore and SPD to 3200 / 1600.
I boots without error, but after the self test nothing happens.
Blank screen.

Which of these is v-qpi?
Could you be more specific what is the name of the setting please?
I don`t have a clue what most of these things mean.
thank you!

[PlatoonSgtElias]

My Adata 12800 aint stable at 1600MHz also... I mean I get to windows and all but it needs horrible volts maybe 2.0v to work stable. But on the memory it says it works 1.65v.. I have 6x3Gb ADATA in my PC... so whats going on? Do I need to raise the qpi volts to get the memory stable?

[Andrea deluxe]

Thanks for the reply!

Currently I have these settings:
Cpu clock ......... 23x
QPI ................. 36x
unCore ............ 24x
SPD ................ 12.0

I found these values (I don`t know what they mean):
QPI/vtt ............1.175
CPU pll ............ 1.800
IOH ................ 1.100
DRAM ............. 1.500
Command rate .. 2

ram: 8 8 8 20

...and a lot more setting, which I leave on optimized defaults.

this is set by optimized defaults.
I only tried to set the uncore and SPD to 3200 / 1600.
I boots without error, but after the self test nothing happens.
Blank screen.

Which of these is v-qpi?
Could you be more specific what is the name of the setting please?
I don`t have a clue what most of these things mean.
thank you!

first flash the last f12 bios!

try this for 3600cpu and 1600mhz ram

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [18]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ...................... [disabled]
CPU Cores Enabled .............................. [All]
CPU Multi Threading .............................[enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ........................ [disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ......................... [disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ............................ [disabled]
CPU EIST Function .............................. [disabled]
Virtualization Technology ...................... [enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ......................... [enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................[7200]
Uncore Frequency ............................[3200]
Isonchronous Frequency ......................[auto]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control .......................... [200]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ................................[3600]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........................ [100]
C.I.A.2........................................... .. [disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[auto]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [auto]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [auto]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [auto]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [quick]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................[8]
tRCD ..................................[8]
tRP ...................................[8]
tRAS ..................................[24]
CR.....................................[2]
B2B.....................................[auto]


Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping
Load Line Calibration ................. [enabled]
CPU Vcore ..............................[1.200]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v .................[1.34]
CPU PLL 1.800v .........................[auto]
PCIE 1.500v ...........................[auto]
QPI PLL 1.100v ........................[auto]
IOH Core 1.100v .......................[auto]
ICH I/O 1.500v ........................[auto]
ICH Core 1.1v .........................[auto]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.68]
DRAM Termination 0.750v.......... [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]

[ford77]

"try this for 3600cpu and 1600mhz ram"

I don`t want to overclock it now, before that, I try to reach factory defaults!
As far as I know, the dominator at 1600 mhz is normal, but I could not
find the settings for even that, without oveclocking anything!

[donmarkoni]

first flash the last f12 bios!

try this for 3600cpu and 1600mhz ram

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [18]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ...................... [disabled]
CPU Cores Enabled .............................. [All]
CPU Multi Threading .............................[enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ........................ [disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ......................... [disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ............................ [disabled]
CPU EIST Function .............................. [disabled]
Virtualization Technology ...................... [enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ......................... [enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................[7200]
Uncore Frequency ............................[3200]
Isonchronous Frequency ......................[auto]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control .......................... [200]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ................................[3600]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........................ [100]
C.I.A.2........................................... .. [disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[auto]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [auto]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [auto]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [auto]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [quick]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................[8]
tRCD ..................................[8]
tRP ...................................[8]
tRAS ..................................[24]
CR.....................................[2]
B2B.....................................[auto]


Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping
Load Line Calibration ................. [enabled]
CPU Vcore ..............................[1.200]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v .................[1.34]SET THIS TO 1.2 OR 1.22
CPU PLL 1.800v .........................[auto]
PCIE 1.500v ...........................[auto]
QPI PLL 1.100v ........................[auto]
IOH Core 1.100v .......................[auto]
ICH I/O 1.500v ........................[auto]
ICH Core 1.1v .........................[auto]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.68]
DRAM Termination 0.750v.......... [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]

"try this for 3600cpu and 1600mhz ram"

I don`t want to overclock it now, before that, I try to reach factory defaults!
As far as I know, the dominator at 1600 mhz is normal, but I could not
find the settings for even that, without oveclocking anything!

@ford77: you should learn from Andrea deluxe's post, especially highlighted parts.

[tool_462]

Anyone try F12 yet? I haven't had a chance.

Is there anything to be gained by flashing my UD5 with the Extreme BIOS?

[BulldogPO]

Any idea how to get past C1 code?

Last night my HTPC´s Laing DDC pump failed and system did shut off at 3 a clock, about.
Morning I did wonder what happened and tried to reboot it.
EX58 Extreme´s diagnostic LED display did quickly stop to C1 and screen was black/blank.

Tried clr cmos and everything, no go.
Different memory modules, one by time, differend slots, same thing.
Then I removed CPU and it works fine with another board.

Now I´m starting to replace that damn pump and then going to try again.
Any suggestions?

And F12 is good bios.

[Andrea deluxe]

"try this for 3600cpu and 1600mhz ram"

I don`t want to overclock it now, before that, I try to reach factory defaults!
As far as I know, the dominator at 1600 mhz is normal, but I could not
find the settings for even that, without oveclocking anything!

without oc.....

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [23]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ...................... [disabled]
CPU Cores Enabled .............................. [All]
CPU Multi Threading .............................[enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ........................ [disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ......................... [disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ............................ [disabled]
CPU EIST Function .............................. [disabled]
Virtualization Technology ...................... [enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ......................... [enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................[auto]
Uncore Frequency ............................[3200]
Isonchronous Frequency ......................[auto]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control .......................... [133]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ................................[auto]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........................ [100]
C.I.A.2........................................... .. [disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[auto]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [auto]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [auto]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [auto]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [12]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [quick]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................[8]
tRCD ..................................[8]
tRP ...................................[8]
tRAS ..................................[24]
CR.....................................[2]
B2B.....................................[auto]


Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping
Load Line Calibration ................. [enabled]
CPU Vcore ..............................[1.200]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v .................[1.34]
CPU PLL 1.800v .........................[auto]
PCIE 1.500v ...........................[auto]
QPI PLL 1.100v ........................[auto]
IOH Core 1.100v .......................[auto]
ICH I/O 1.500v ........................[auto]
ICH Core 1.1v .........................[auto]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.68]
DRAM Termination 0.750v.......... [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]

[donmarkoni]

Anyone try F12 yet? I haven't had a chance.

Is there anything to be gained by flashing my UD5 with the Extreme BIOS?

1. I'm trying it right now. It's OK, seem a little more stable then F11, but don't take my opinion for granted, as I'm new to Gigabyte (2 days with F11 and 2 days with F12 ), just comparing it with my good old DFI.

2. My question too.

EDIT: Found out one interesting thing, which might be already known, but it's new to me. It could be the new BIOS issue also.
After each reboot board become more and more unstable. After returning to previously stable settings, it's still unstable. Shutting down and cold booting make it become stable again.
DFI has one option to choose if board should cold boot after each BIOS change and save, but didn't found with GB. Is there any? Seems like it does a cold reboot after changing voltage options from auto to manual and vice versa.

[tool_462]

EDIT: Found out one interesting thing, which might be already known, but it's new to me. It could be the new BIOS issue also.
After each reboot board become more and more unstable. After returning to previously stable settings, it's still unstable. Shutting down and cold booting make it become stable again.
DFI has one option to choose if board should cold boot after each BIOS change and save, but didn't found with GB. Is there any? Seems like it does a cold reboot after changing voltage options from auto to manual and vice versa.

I have experienced this as well, particularly with memory timing adjustments.

I don't believe there to be a cold boot option, I've only seen that on DFI boards (socket 775)

[donmarkoni]

I don't believe there to be a cold boot option, I've only seen that on DFI boards (socket 775)

There is option "Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 1" on s.1366 boards too.
I switched from DFI cause I couldn't find long term stability for Folding@home over 4.3GHz.
Now with Gigabyte it looks stable @ 4.4GHz. We'll see... (and try 4.5 )
I won't sell DFI just yet, cause this GB board with "auto" options is good to learn what engineers think is needed for higher clocks and I'll try it on DFI, maybe I was missing something or doing wrong.

And about flashing to Extreme, it looks like we'll just have to try. I don't mind doing it.
I presume there is no problem returning to UD5 BIOS after testing?

[Lsdmeasap]

I presume there is no problem returning to UD5 BIOS after testing?

Previously (Older BIOS) no it was not a problem to flash back to UD5, now with the new BIOSes it is and I am not sure which BIOS the changes occurred in. More specifically, I know F11 Extreme gets stuck in UD5, so if you flash to it you will be stuck @ Extreme so I would assume F12 also. Flashing back to older Extreme's after the fact and making the backup an older one as well has no effect either.

Ones like F8-10 I think are fine, not really sure when the changes happened, why, or if they can be corrected or not. I might ask next week though and see what I can find out for everyone, they do not condone it of course so not sure if I will be able to get a proper answer as to why or if it can be put back though.

[tool_462]

The real question is, is there any advantage to flashing to Extreme in the first place? I've not seen the BIOS on the Extreme to know what is different.

[Lsdmeasap]

Sometimes yes, sometimes the extreme may have new features before the other models, or may have a more stable BIOS. Generally speaking though, no, there is no real advantage to crossflashing from UD5 to Extreme other than just to say you are using UD5 @ Extreme. I know a few who did it just for the image, which you can manually change a few ways if that's all you want it for

They are the same currently anyway, exact matching BIOSes I believe.

[tool_462]

Figured as much, thanks. I'll stick with UD5's F12 for now and just tell people I am Extreme

[Lsdmeasap]

That keeps your warranty safe too!


Of course you are Extreme already, you are here of course aren't you. They should already know.

I will post back here later next week if I can get an answer about my above comments on this