Honestly I'm not surprised at the low minimum frame coming from ATI, I think the lower memory BW and size plays an important part there @ 2500 resolution, I would much like to see how the Fermi cards compare to the SIX edition 5870 since memory size would be a smaller limiting factor then.
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I guess the 'zillion' number was enough to see it was a joke or exaggeration, nobody got that obviously and went berserk over it. Jesus.
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nVidia has released benchmarks in cherry picked situations where they have the biggest advantage, and yet they still show minimal performance advantage over the 5870. the 5870 maxes out it's 1GB Vram at 2560x1600 8xAA, so of course it's performance will take a big hit. Let's see some benchmarks at more common situations like 1920x1200 4xAA and see what happens. Personally, I was planning on buying whichever one had better performance at release in October, but now I wish I had just bought the 5870 instead of waiting for this crap.
calm down mate you're forgetting this is the GTX470, it was never meant to wipe the floor with all AMD's offerings. There is still the 480 which should offer 15% (at least) more performance than the 5870. If priced right, I'm sure you won't be complaining about buying one![]()
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Everybody got "it" that you were exaggereting.However your post clearly insinuated that market share difference between ati and nvidia is so much bigger that it made that graph irrelevant.Which of course was not true.I guess the 'zillion' number was enough to see it was a joke or exaggeration, nobody got that obviously and went berserk over it. Jesus.
That is why people started posting clear numbers.Because you presented something that was not true ;-).
I hereby implie everyone to stop driver wars ,cos thats not the core of this thread.And i think we all agree strong fermi would be good for every CONSUMER, because thats what we are and siding furiously on side of some graphic card vendor is just stupid, because they want our money,and we want to spend as less as possible on greatest as possible.
One observation for folks is to try to stay with the facts and not feelings like "i hated it" "-Why?" "it was bad" and so on.
Are there any confirmed price leaks yet ? That is the thing thats most important right now i think.Performance wise we already now something at least.
Its pretty much established that 1GB isnt enough for 2560x1600 with 4xAA gaming, that is probably the reason for such low min fps(and probably skews whole result).Neuromancer
From what i gather, every leak that we saw so far was with 2560x1600 ,im beginning to think thats something fishy around here.
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I think it's much more interesting to see what the frame rates will be like in an in-game benchmark run with the use of FRAPS for example. Do that run for a minute or so, start at around a minute into the game and repeat 5 times to take the average. That's what I want to see.
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yeah they really try hard to reach limit of 5870 memory capacity looks like the same cr_p that amd pulled with 5870 vs gtx 295 they used same tactic and benched every game in extreme res which gave us false info i can't wait for quality review of this card specially an H review![]()
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what a worthless comparison; neither card is able to provide playable FPS;
run it a resolution/AA level which produces AT Least 35-40fps and then compare minFPS.
the only thing those screenies prove that more memory on a videocard only makes a difference at the highest resolution and high AA settingbut as with all those memory card size comparison benchies you'll soon be at a level where the playable FPS is just too low; and having 14 or 15fps avg won't change anything.
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well you can judge yourself by looking at there benchs don't you ? btw 5830 doesn't have any non EOLed oponent so why not give it gold award ? performance is between 5850 and 5770 which it was supposed to be only bad thign is that amd priced it higher cause of 5870 pcbs soon custom pcbs will roll out and you gonna see much cheaper versions and believe me that card will be only one in 200 dolar price range as dx 11 card after few weeks lol and for a looong time
Some guy at DH posted these, have you seen this before?
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if that happens (prices dropping to $200) then it's the only time 5830 could be considered for purchase. A $240 card can't be counted as a good card because "it's going to drop in price". The 5830 release sucks and as far as I know the only site to actually praise this launch was HardoCP. "perfect performance perfect price" lolz
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what is with the sys info on those benchmarks
driver version looks odd
to much photoshop going around
when i run that benchmark i get
Driver version: Catalyst 10.2 (8.702-100202a-095693C-ATI)
and the 10.3 beta
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