NVIDIA Builds GeForce PC Kit

[trinibwoy]

This is not designed for people like us.

Nice it only took 2 pages of posts for someone to get it! Yeah it's a pile of horse crap from our perspective but the vast majority of people would consider this a good gaming PC considering what they usually have.

[tajoh111]

That system would be suited for 1024x768-1280x1024 ( max ) with moderate settings, as far as current games are concerned. My issue with it isn't the fact I wouldn't buy it but the fact that their PR and marketing direction is very misleading. If they pushed this with words like "starter", "budget" , "affordable" then perhaps but trying to make it out to be way more than it is, is just unethical. "Hey guys, check out our awesome super duper high end gaming system that you can build yourself! Yeah!" Apparently their marketing departments need to maintain the size of their finctional man hoods (aka Nvidia's brand name) by touting anything with the word "Nvidia" on it as the second coming of Jesus... Its just a tad retarded. I'm not offended by the concept but by its piss poor execution of a pontentially good idea. They are just trying to take advantage of their brand awareness and cash in. Bad play, Nvidia, bad play.

If you look at word semantics, any company can be caught lying or misleading.

The ATI Radeon HD 5570 graphics card provides great game play in DirectX® 11 titles such as Codemaster's Colin McRae™: DiRT® 2™, EA Phenomic's BattleForge™ , GSC Game World's S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Call of Pripyat™ and Battlefield: Bad Company™

http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases...2010feb09.aspx

Stalker and dirt 2 are both going to be hard pressed to play any of those titles in directx 11 mode on a 5570.

I think people are just looking for way to be pissed off an NV. Does it feel that good to be pissed off that we need to find or invent ways to do it.

The 8800 might not be cutting edge per see, but it's a step up from consoles.

Most of the public see console hardware as cutting edge.

[Teemax]

Most of the public see console hardware as cutting edge.

When it's just released.

People aren't as dumb as you seem to think. The non-tech people I know understand quite well that the XBOX 360 or PS3 are a couple of years old, and thus quite 'obsolete' in term of hardware.

[kl0012]

I wonder if NVidia just trying to make some money by reselling components from other manufacturers labeled with NVidia's brand.

[mcmeat51]

This is not designed for people like us.

This is designed for your average joe to walk into a shop, see the shiny colour-coded box's, buy it, build it, and say "I did that".

If it's their first PC, then Nvidia will likely get repeat custom from them further down the road. First impressions count, assuming it doesn't blow up on them, or take their house out in a fireball, then this is what they will think of when building a new one.

It's the reason marketing exists. The fact that people in the know Nvidia's marketing is often plain wrong with their facts is totally irrelevant, because marketing does usually work on it's target audience, which we are most certainly not.

Exactly you hit the nail on the head!

Im not a huge nvidia fan, but I actually really like the idea! OK if you price all the stuff up and do it yourself you can get a better deal, but thats not who its trying to target.

Personally, I think if they were going to do this, they should (I know nothing about intels btw), market it with a decent cooler and promote the scope for overclocking. So OK it starts of average at best, but if ppl are able to OC the balls off it safely then that would make it a worthwhile buy.

That system would be suited for 1024x768-1280x1024 ( max ) with moderate settings, as far as current games are concerned. My issue with it isn't the fact I wouldn't buy it but the fact that their PR and marketing direction is very misleading. If they pushed this with words like "starter", "budget" , "affordable" then perhaps but trying to make it out to be way more than it is, is just unethical. "Hey guys, check out our awesome super duper high end gaming system that you can build yourself! Yeah!" Apparently their marketing departments need to maintain the size of their finctional man hoods (aka Nvidia's brand name) by touting anything with the word "Nvidia" on it as the second coming of Jesus... Its just a tad retarded. I'm not offended by the concept but by its piss poor execution of a pontentially good idea. They are just trying to take advantage of their brand awareness and cash in. Bad play, Nvidia, bad play.

Yea I do agree, marketing it as 'high end' is wrong, but Considering a mate of mine has pretty much this setup and he can play most games on high/highest settings then maybe in relation to the games out there its not so bad.

[Blacky]

yuck ultra psu's, add a couple of bucks for OS too...

[breakfromyou]

Are nvidia trying their hardest to piss ppl off??

If they wanted to piss people off, they'd pair a GT210 or GT220 with this. Maybe one of those 9500GS's with the fan that clicks after a while...

[takamishanoku]

This is not designed for people like us.

This is designed for your average joe to walk into a shop, see the shiny colour-coded box's, buy it, build it, and say "I did that".

If it's their first PC, then Nvidia will likely get repeat custom from them further down the road. First impressions count, assuming it doesn't blow up on them, or take their house out in a fireball, then this is what they will think of when building a new one.

It's the reason marketing exists. The fact that people in the know Nvidia's marketing is often plain wrong with their facts is totally irrelevant, because marketing does usually work on it's target audience, which we are most certainly not.

Yeah you 100% right. It's just hard to accept from what we know. I react the exact same with apple products (and they are def not design for our market).

[AndrewZorn]

wow, buy a computer, probably pay more to have to assemble it yourself.
if only dell could pull this off

[naokaji]

Good idea, but the rest is made of fail.

Lets face it, most people don't have a 30" screen and don't need a highend pc to play games, budget hardware is good enough for the majority.
Combine that with the ever increasing pressure on the pc from consoles and there is a clear need for a cheap gaming capable pc.

However, this is not cheap and there is something between the ancient trash hw they use and highend, but oh well, at least they are not trying to sell a pc using igp as gaming capable like too many oems do.

If they would just update the components a bit, lower the price and focus the advertising around the fact that a gaming capable pc doesn't have to cost a arm and leg it could end up as good product.

[varrius]

For the first time in history. . . I think a company (nvidia) just trolled the consumer. They must be getting epic lulz.

[zalbard]

Terrible hardware choices.
They should've made one in a decent case with i7, Fermi and 3D glasses kit.

whats the price?
sounds like a good cheap gaming pc... but i guess its not cheap

Crappy gaming PC you mean. Probably not cheap, but slow and outdated for sure...

[grimREEFER]

not worth it at $500.
would have worked better at $400

the only way you can get people to not just build their own $500 pc is to have the effective price of the components in this bundle below the retail price of them, enough so that people are willing to lose the flexibility of choosing their own components in order to save money.

[highoctane]

At the rate how f-ed up this is, if I were a complete computer noob I'd rather ask someone to assemble a rig for me.

But neither of those are the main argument. The fact that nVidia are willing to tack their name unto this, somehow making this the "definitive" Geforce kit, is just puke inducing.

It's their loss though, when people dumb enough to get this finally realize that the rig's incompetent enough to play most stuff without stuttering its way there thanks to the RAM/vRAM amount though.

As the saying goes, you have to learn to walk before you run.

Just like Radioshack offered all the cheesy electronics kits (by todays standards) back in the day for the beginner to get familiar and learn to build a basic circuit themselves.

Whats the point in a kit if you just get somebody experienced to build you a rig, there's something to be learned by taking the initiative and making that first step yourself.

When the folks who buy this kit realize what they have the kit has served its purpose. They built their first pc, got familiar with the process and components and now maybe have a grasp of what they may want in their next build.

I would imagine for most beginners their first pc probably wasn't even as good as this kit is. Its definitely better than entry level and a long way from high end but its not bad for a starter kit.

[Bolas]

Terrible hardware choices.
They should've made one in a decent case with i7, Fermi and 3D glasses kit.

Crappy gaming PC you mean. Probably not cheap, but slow and outdated for sure...

I would love to see more high end DIY kits. Even Newegg's $4700 DIY kit is at least decent, especially compared to this $500 kit.

I totally agree that they need a better kit to represent their brand. Here's what I'd like to see for an Nvidia kit:

Intel Core i7 920 cpu
Intel X25-M G2 160GB SSD boot drive
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB HDD data drive
Asus P6X58D motherboard
Corsair 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Dominator memory
Corsair 800D case
NVidia GTX 470 gpu
Nvidia 3D glasses
Alienware 3D 1080P monitor

Something like that would much better represent the brand, I would think.

[HelixPC]

This is obviously not for people who can build their own rigs, because we can put better parts, they will sell these, because there are more of those who cant, then who can.

[RoadconeTuning]

wow, this seemed like a decent cheap server/spare computer for a friend to game on untill i saw the price... this is deff for the avg joe idiot who likes shiny objects.

[Wolf132]

Well, if you look at it from Apples standpoint, that's a pretty good deal if it cost 450$ish in parts. It should have options to change the video card and cpu, but I guess it's another way for Nvidia to liquidate their stock of old 8800's.

An Apple Mac pro with a single quad xeon, 3gigs ram, 640gb hd, a superdrive, and a NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB is 2500$ base price. Now that is absurd.

[ajaidev]

E5300 "800 FSB" hahahha
G31 "PCIe 1.0" hahahah
Re-branded 8800GT hahahahaha

This should be the hahaha nvidia edition

Instead of this they should have used:

E6300
P43
GTX 260

This is the bare min i would call a proper gaming system, 9800GT/GTS 250 are worthless "Buying a new one now a days" in my books.

It would have been so sweet if nvidia released a water cooled gtx 480/I7 or Thuban/890FX or x58 powered PC kit

[saaya]

idk man, 250s are pretty sweet...
100$ and you get a 1gb gts that can play most games at full HD with eyecandy maxed and even aa?
ati has nothing even close to that price perf wise...
the 5750 is the only thing near it and it starts at 150$... thats quite a big dx11 tax there... thats not worth it for those price segments...

[zalbard]

idk man, 250s are pretty sweet...
100$ and you get a 1gb gts that can play most games at full HD with eyecandy maxed and even aa?
ati has nothing even close to that price perf wise...
the 5750 is the only thing near it and it starts at 150$... thats quite a big dx11 tax there... thats not worth it for those price segments...

You're forgetting about 4770! It's cool, quiet, cheap, and overclocks like a beast!

[munim]

People in this thread are Xtreme at everything other than intelligence hahahahha.

This PC can game better than most PCs available at every brick and mortar store like Best Buy etc.

[saaya]

You're forgetting about 4770! It's cool, quiet, cheap, and overclocks like a beast!

hmmm not really...
99$ for 512mb and 140$ for 1gb...
the 512mb is an alternative to a G92 card, but idk... isnt a GTS250 faster? and you can get a 1gb gts250 for 99$, thats damn good...
the 1gb 4770 is ridiculous, you can almost get a 5750 with 1gb for that price... whod buy a 4770 for the same price as a 5750?

i noticed that i posted this in another thread by accident

Saaya, I am surprised your using such a cheap Power supply in your argument. Sure Ultra is not the best(it actually bad), but I would assume that with a lifetime warranty, they are not using a crap oem like deer.

ive built several gaming pcs for friends a couple of years back and always used the cheapest 400-500W cr4p that came bundled with the cheapest cr4-p cases... and while i had 1 DOA, after it was replaced, which was immediatly since the shop swaps those, there havent been problems with those pcs... ever...

unless you build a real highend pc or plan to overclock PSUs are way overrated in my experience...

That system would be suited for 1024x768-1280x1024 ( max ) with moderate settings, as far as current games are concerned. My issue with it isn't the fact I wouldn't buy it but the fact that their PR and marketing direction is very misleading. If they pushed this with words like "starter", "budget" , "affordable" then perhaps but trying to make it out to be way more than it is, is just unethical. "Hey guys, check out our awesome super duper high end gaming system that you can build yourself! Yeah!" Apparently their marketing departments need to maintain the size of their finctional man hoods (aka Nvidia's brand name) by touting anything with the word "Nvidia" on it as the second coming of Jesus... Its just a tad retarded. I'm not offended by the concept but by its piss poor execution of a pontentially good idea. They are just trying to take advantage of their brand awareness and cash in. Bad play, Nvidia, bad play.

i think it could play 1680x1050 fine in most games...
overall, i like the idea... its basically an attempt at making people look at a pc like a console...

but thats stupid because you cant beat consoles when it comes to price performance... as the hardware is subsidized heavily for consoles...
so focusing on price is the wrong way to go, they ned to focus on features...
theres a whole lot more you can do with pcs that you cant do with consoles... and gaming wise pcs can also offer a much better experience than consoles...

i think that idea was good, but the way they did it was stupid...
they should have gone for a 1000us$ mark instead and put together a pc that is a REAL kick4ss system. something that offers better gameplay than consoles... maybe even with 3d display...

[LightSpeed]

Craptastic

Not a bad idea, just horrible components and overpriced as well. The exact same system (With CM PSU) costs ~$420. Hmm

[Bobsama]

Craptastic

Not a bad idea, just horrible components and overpriced as well. The exact same system (With CM PSU) costs ~$420. Hmm

Had they started this a year or more ago, nobody would be giving them much flak. The fact that they're doing this in 2010 is what's pissing people off. 2GB RAM and a 250GB hard drive is a joke. This system is a blast from the past; firmly in mid-2007 territory so far as speed is concerned.