"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[x3mgamer]

hi gurus,

ive been running this oc for a year now and it bsod only once:


ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 425
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: ddr2-1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Common Performance Level [5]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.20625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.670
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: enabled


today ive decided to give it a bit more juice and see how it performs at 3.8 so i got it stable with fsb 444, ram 1067 and vcore 1.23125, max temps reported by real temp r 66,63,59,59

everest is also showing those same temps but its also showing cpu temp next to those core temps and its a lot lower, like 52 under load, so my question is: how dangerous r these core temps im having and what can i do to lower them, cooler is ocz vendetta 2, ram corsair dominator 8 gb, q9550 @ p5q deluxe

[BababooeyHTJ]

Those temps are fine, especially if thats under prime load.

[x3mgamer]

ive been getting this strange bsod lately:


A fatal hardware error has occurred.

Reported by component: Processor Core
Error Source: Machine Check Exception
Error Type: Bus/Interconnect Error
Processor ID: 0

anyone knows what it is, it started after i rollback'd to my 3.6 OC


update: flashed bios with newest 2301 and reset to default values, wonder if itll happen @ factory defaults

[8800's@over]

Best BIOS to pass 500 FSB on Q9550 ?

[x3mgamer]

pass 500 with that cpu and mobo? id be happy if i could boot with 472

[alcatraroz]

pass 500 with that cpu and mobo? id be happy if i could boot with 472

LOL...especially with that mobo...the worse one i even got for overclock so far...with my previous p5k asus (P35) and my Q9550 i can easily stay 470 fsb(stable)...with this one(same cpu+ram+psu) just i can reach 479 RS!!!

[x3mgamer]

LOL...especially with that mobo...the worse one i even got for overclock so far...with my previous p5k asus (P35) and my Q9550 i can easily stay 470 fsb(stable)...with this one(same cpu+ram+psu) just i can reach 479 RS!!!

r we talking about the same p5q deluxe mobo dude? coz u said its the worst one for oc so far and then u say u reach 479 unlike the p35 u had before?

this latest bios doesnt let me keep my old 3.6 OC for some reason, it wont even POST

p5q deluxe is capable of a lot more than ive gotten out of her so far, i just need to gather some balls and push it, thinking outside the box is needed lol

[megatron]

It has a drop from 1.38v in bios settings to 1.3v on load vCore without loadline calibration or vdroop. I've not gone further than 3.8Ghz on a q9550 but it was simply vcore which was causing problems. That's 450fsb * 8.5 with 5:6 divider (since it doesn't like 1:1 from various reports and the fact that it warns at stock in the bios that less than 800Mhz ram speed is out of spec).

[alcatraroz]

r we talking about the same p5q deluxe mobo dude? coz u said its the worst one for oc so far and then u say u reach 479 unlike the p35 u had before?

this latest bios doesnt let me keep my old 3.6 OC for some reason, it wont even POST

p5q deluxe is capable of a lot more than ive gotten out of her so far, i just need to gather some balls and push it, thinking outside the box is needed lol

with my previous P5K/ EPU ( p35) i was stable at 470x8.5...with this one i am stable at 479x8.5...sincerely i was expecting a bit more ...especially considering that its more expensive (almost double than p5k) its 16 phases its P45...etc etc...i've seen lots Gigabyte UD3P (cheaper than p5q dlx) stay at 500 or more fsb... easily

[eternaljammer]

Still one of the best boards made.

[x3mgamer]

how do i make this rig stable at 4 ghz?

my current setup is this:


ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 425
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: ddr2-1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Common Performance Level [5]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.20625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.670
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: enabled

[megatron]

how do i make this rig stable at 4 ghz?

my current setup is this:

ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 471
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 5:6 (~1130Mhz)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 (maybe 18)
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO > disabled
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO -> Lighter
AI Clock Twister: AUTO -> Light
AI Transaction Booster: manual
Common Performance Level [10, didn't not effect stability rather post or not lvl 8 @ 450]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.20625 > I have LLC disabled and need 1.39v for 3.8Ghz (not tested more)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.670
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.26 -> Increase to 1.36v since U have 4 dimms
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.10 -> 1.2 just because
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: enabled -> supposed to be bad for CPU, needs more vcore is disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: enabled

[x3mgamer]

hey Megatron, this is weird, it wont boot with ur specs but it will boot with these, as u can see all i did was raise fsb to 471, underclocked ram to 943, raised vcore to 1.26875 to boot successfully for a few seconds, typing this from vcore 1.29375 and its stable enough to run firefox and type this, but the temps reach like 57.53.46.45 under 5-15 % load (i call this idle coz im only typing this in firefox and running real temp, some torrents and stuff), whats up with this? the only thing that happens is firefox crashes every now and then, all other specs r the same as my original 3.6 OC, i dont think i can live with these temps coz under 100 % load theyll shoot over 70+ if theyre 57 under load, what do i do to lower cpu temp and keep this clock, is that even possible?



ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 471
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 943 Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
cpu margin enhancement : performance mode

CPU Voltage: 1.20625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.670
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: enabled[/QUOTE]

[BababooeyHTJ]

Your GTLs are a bit high, you may want to give the optimized CME a shot, I would give vNB a slight bump, you may have to play with your VTT, and I would start with a PL (performance level) 8. My rig is rock stable now sitting at pl8 but if I switch that to pl10 and don't touch anything else my board won't even post. Four occupied dimms can be rough on this board.

[x3mgamer]

Your GTLs are a bit high, you may want to give the optimized CME a shot, I would give vNB a slight bump, you may have to play with your VTT, and I would start with a PL (performance level) 8. My rig is rock stable now sitting at pl8 but if I switch that to pl10 and don't touch anything else my board won't even post. Four occupied dimms can be rough on this board.

will that lower the temps Baba? coz even if i got this oc stable the cpu would die coz of temps soon lol, is there any way to lower temps and keep the clock?

[Cloud76]

Please can someone tell me which program I can use to do an OC in windows?
Tried Asus turbo V (it tell that doesn't support this mobo), Asus AI booster (it doesn't install), Asus AI Suite ( it can change only FSB and multipler but there is no option for CPU Voltage), RM clock ( can set P-states but only from 1,18 to 1,25V that is the CPU VID).
I need only multipler and CPUvoltage selection.
Don't tell me to do it through the bios, I already have done this, I know how to overclock but for my purpose I need a software to OC one of my partition so I can keep the other (and all the system at the startup) undervolted.
The OC profiles are too boring, I need always to enter bios and choose the profile...
I haven't found anything in my research, only some programs that set the FSB or nothing more, but I need MULTIPLER and CPU-VOLTAGE.
Nothing usefull?

[scharnhorst]

If it can help
Q9650 @ 4230MHz
4*2GB (Gskill&Corsair)
P5Q Deluxe 2301

ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 470
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: ddr2-941
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: NORMAL
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: NORMAL
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: NORMAL
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: NORMAL
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 65
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: LIGHTER
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
Common Performance Level [10]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: ENABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.28750
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28
DRAM Voltage: 1.80
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : AUTO


C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Enabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: enabled

[x3mgamer]

im gonna try that now, even though ur cpu is able to do a lot more with a lot less vcore, thx

update: firefox keeps crashing, temps around 60 at idle, firefox keeps crashing so i guess this C1 just cant handle 4.0 on air, any other suggestions

[BababooeyHTJ]

will that lower the temps Baba? coz even if i got this oc stable the cpu would die coz of temps soon lol, is there any way to lower temps and keep the clock?

Probably not, what are you using for a cooler and what types of temps are you seeing? I ran an e8400 at some pretty high temps (close to 80C under linpack load) for a few months and never saw a hint of voltage degradation. These chips are pretty hearty. I would be willing to bet that most people with degradation issues are those people that think that it's OK to run an OC 24/7 with everything set to auto which is a surprising amount of people.

Anyways, when I went to 8GB I found that a custom Prime run set to this where memory to use is your max available ram caused the fastest errors which really helps when tweaking. You'll see what I mean. I hope that it helps you as much as it did me. If you can run small fft fine then your cpu is in the ballpark but need to worry about the MCH.

[x3mgamer]

Probably not, what are you using for a cooler and what types of temps are you seeing?

im using OCZ Vendetta 2 and temps r like 60 at idle for core0, ur absolutely right about the Auto values, ppl dont have a clue about this board overvolting

[asmfan]

Have there been done more or less recent testings with measured voltages on [Auto] or minimum values?
Is overvolting problem on [Auto] is BIOS related and been fixed or VRM itself? And someone here measured vSB & vPCIE on [Auto] or other?

[davidkozat]

Hi Guys long time no post lol I decided to share my OC as I still have my P5Q Dlx and I love it by the way!! Still on 2201 but ill try the latest see if I can find any mayor differences..

am using a Q9650 on 480 mhz so 4.3... using 1.44 on CPUz so my setting are as follow:

480 X 9

Ram: 961 can't use 1152 not stable even though my ram is 1066 corsair!! Hate corsair ... nyway

timings 6-6-6-18-4

cpu v: 1.45
gtl 0/2 0.635
gtl 1/3 0.645
pll 1.58
fsb v 1.40
ram v 2.10
nb v 1.40
nv gtl 0.64
sb v 1.10
pcie sata v 1.50

good luck on the overcloking guys!!

[Ubermann]

There is a new bios out at Station-drivers called 2208

Station-drivers

Dont see any release notes or so..

And if anyone care to help:

CPU Voltage:
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2):
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3):
CPU PLL Voltage:
FSB Termination Voltage:
DRAM Voltage:
NB Voltage:
NB GTL Reference:
SBridge Voltage:
PCIE SATA Voltage:

What is max without killing hardware instanly on an 8400 ?

Im at 4.7ghz with 4-4-4-14 timings 1:1 on ballistix some big aircooler i forgot name on and i dont think its stable.
New board, dont know much at all about bios and stuff yet.

[Cloud76]

There is a new bios out at Station-drivers called 2208

Station-drivers

Dont see any release notes or so..

This is not for deluxe version, it's for P5Q.
The latest for deluxe version is 2301:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5Q_Deluxe/

[R@ptor =]]]

hi guys,
i'm without posting for a few months and i need your help.
I read a few pags back, but don't found an answer for my question.
I'm with the 0803 bios, and i want to update it.
What is the best bios to overclock so far ?
my configuration is the sign.
thanks !