Quote Originally Posted by 570091D View Post
actually, the gtx285 was easily able to compete with the 48x0 series... they were still selling well after the debut of the 5870 (for what little time they were both on sale at the same time). and as for charlie, someone said it here before "even a dead clock is right twice a day".
cheapest GTX 285 = $379
Cheapest 5850 = $289
Not sure why anyone would buy a GTX 285 at this point, the 5850 is $90 cheaper, has more features, and is faster in games. no GTX 295 for sale anymore, so anyone looking for a high end video card has only ATI. GTX 260 is still $200+ when the 5770 is the same speed and $160. There's really no price point where nVidia has an advantage in speed.


Charlie is exaggerating about the yields and about it being unfixable, but core clock of 600-625 is what his sources were disagreeing on, nothing major. The idle temps will probably be fine with drivers that lower power in 2D. Let's face it, fermi would be out by now if there weren't problems. Are they major problems? Yes. Are they fixable? yes.




Quote Originally Posted by xdan View Post
Rest of 10% means that GTX 480 will be 50-60% better than 5870 and the price will be 550-570$. Say i have my sources.
Man, I'm 80% sure that fermi will be 15% faster than 5870, so where does that leave us? That's not even one of the options in your certainty! You must be at least 80% wrong.

Quote Originally Posted by xdan View Post
Will see , yah in one month and a little...Anyway 5970 seems to be more a phantom card....http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...on%20HD%205970 It think that GTX 295 had more avalaibility than this..
no more a phantom card than the GTX480.