AMD: the world's first 12-core processor has begun shipping

[god_43]

AMD said today that the world's first 12-core processor, code-named Magny-Cours (Magny-Cours)'s new Opteron server chips, has begun shipping and get an income.

AMD公司发言人PhilHughes说：从将近三十天前开始我们就在积极向客户提供相当于零售产品 的 (十二核心处理器)样品了。 AMD spokesman PhilHughes said: from nearly 30 days before the start, we actively provide the equivalent of retail products to customers (and 12-core processor) samples of the. 事实上我们已经出货了数量有限的新产品，以便让客户为本季度晚些时候的如期正式发布做好准备。 In fact, we have shipped a limited number of new products, so customer-oriented as scheduled later this quarter, an official release ready.

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[zanzabar]

looks like a dream for hyperV or vmware, this would give u a whole numa node on 1 board

[JF-AMD]

Yes, we are shipping for revenue (to OEMs). And if you run virtualization you will LOVE this processor. 12 cores, 4 memory channels.

I was in the lab yesterday and asked our power guy if it was really in the same power and thermals as Istanbul (6 core). He not only verified that, but also said that it idles lower. Of course, 12-core workloads are generally well threaded, so you won't probably see these at idle as much, but good to know if they do,having 2x the cores doesn't boost power consumption.

[zalbard]

Too bad it's server only. Dual socket solutions are just too pricy for ordinary consumers like users of XS.
These gotta compete really well on the server market, though. Intel doesn't have similar offers yet.

[zanzabar]

Too bad it's server only. Dual socket solutions are just too pricy for ordinary consumers like users of XS.
These gotta compete really well on the server market, though. Intel doesn't have similar offers yet.

they arnt bad on the amd side for the dualF i dont know about thees since arnt they on that new rectangular socket. they wouldent be good for anything but crunching for a home user they are clocked way to low and having the ht link from die to die wouldent be so good for gaming, but it would be good for encoding.

[FlawleZ]

they arnt bad on the amd side for the dualF i dont know about thees since arnt they on that new rectangular socket. they wouldent be good for anything but crunching for a home user they are clocked way to low and having the ht link from die to die wouldent be so good for gaming, but it would be good for encoding.

Only as good as the software itself can take advantage of its core count. There are far too many programs now that scarcely use more than 2 cores effectively. Hopefully that will soon become a problem of the past.

[JF-AMD]

Supermicro will have a 1P G34 board. They were showing it last year at Supercomputing 2009. I can't comment on the price as it is not my product.

[zalbard]

Supermicro will have a 1P G34 board. They were showing it last year at Supercomputing 2009. I can't comment on the price as it is not my product.

I think a few guys over at WCG section will be more than happy to pick it up once it's released.

[hollo]

Supermicro will have a 1P G34 board. They were showing it last year at Supercomputing 2009. I can't comment on the price as it is not my product.

yea it's pretty exciting, hoping like hell there's a way to overclock it

xs news thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=239952
.. which links to this article @ theregister:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11...ro_sc_servers/
pic of UP g34:


just looking at it makes me happy

[Agrophel]

2x Supermicro MBs





Doh im to slow

[Piotrsama]

Sounds like an impressive chip, now my questions are:
How did AMD get ahead of Intel in the cores count? (Or why did Intel slow down?)
How's Intel going to answer to this?

[JF-AMD]

These are not designed to be overclocked, sorry. There is thermal headroom in the processors and they are the same power/thermals as our current 6-core parts, but we do not target them at enthusiasts. The BIOS will not have options that consumer parts have.

[accord99]

Sounds like an impressive chip, now my questions are:
How did AMD get ahead of Intel in the cores count? (Or why did Intel slow down?)

Faster cores versus more cores.

How's Intel going to answer to this?

6-core Gulftown and Westmere at the low-end, 8-core Beckton at the top.

[zanzabar]

Sounds like an impressive chip, now my questions are:
How did AMD get ahead of Intel in the cores count? (Or why did Intel slow down?)
How's Intel going to answer to this?

its got 2 6 core dies smithed, its like the intel 1st gen dual or quad cores were they were 2 1 or 2 cores next to each other.

and amd has always been ahead in core count they made the 1st dual, quad and hex, now the 1st smithed 12

[JF-AMD]

Sounds like an impressive chip, now my questions are:
How did AMD get ahead of Intel in the cores count? (Or why did Intel slow down?)
How's Intel going to answer to this?

Intel is focused on hyperthreading to get to that core count. But hyperthreading is never a good replacement for real cores.

They'll get there in core count, but I haven't heard them explain in public that they will get there ahead of us. Sandybridge is their next architecture, but we will be at 16 cores by then, pretty sure they will still be in the single digits.

[[XC] gomeler]

Sounds like an impressive chip, now my questions are:
How did AMD get ahead of Intel in the cores count? (Or why did Intel slow down?)
How's Intel going to answer to this?

Depends what you want. 12 stupid fast threads that equal roughly ~9 cores(I count HT as 1/2 core per thread) or 12 medium speed cores. About damn time this CPU hit the market, now we just need consumer 6 core CPUs at a decent speed.

[zanzabar]

Depends what you want. 12 stupid fast threads that equal roughly ~9 cores(I count HT as 1/2 core per thread) or 12 medium speed cores. About damn time this CPU hit the market, now we just need consumer 6 core CPUs at a decent speed.

ide rather take a quad or a tri with an grotesque amount of cashe

[Particle]

Intel made the first 6-core. It just sucked was all. And no, it's NOT like Intel's first multi-core chips. The way the dies talk to each other is worlds apart.

[Piotrsama]

Thanks for the input guys.

its got 2 6 core dies smithed, its like the intel 1st gen dual or quad cores were they were 2 1 or 2 cores next to each other.

and amd has always been ahead in core count they made the 1st dual, quad and hex, now the 1st smithed 12

Yes I know it's 2 hexas "glued", but afterall it's 12 real cores in a socket.
You might want to recheck what I bolded, Intel were first on quad and hexa cores, that's why I was a bit surprised to see AMD going "ahead".

[zanzabar]

intel has no non es hex and they had smithed duals not quads until the i7

[Piotrsama]

Ah, you meant "real" quad... ok.
That's up to interpretation, to me what it counts is cores per socket, and of course the performance has to be there.
And even AMD itself accepted that it was a mistake not to release a "glued" quad. Look how much they lagged, and also... the TLB bug on first Phenoms.

[bladerash]

its got 2 6 core dies smithed, its like the intel 1st gen dual or quad cores were they were 2 1 or 2 cores next to each other.

and amd has always been ahead in core count they made the 1st dual, quad and hex, now the 1st smithed 12

actually, intel had the first quad core with it's kentsfield. AMD's barcelona came out 1 year later as the self-claimed first ''native'' quad core. But seeing how it got slapped silly clock for clock by intel's kentsfield, native doesn't hold any meaning if the performance doesn't live up to it.

[freeloader]

Yes, we are shipping for revenue (to OEMs). And if you run virtualization you will LOVE this processor. 12 cores, 4 memory channels.

I was in the lab yesterday and asked our power guy if it was really in the same power and thermals as Istanbul (6 core). He not only verified that, but also said that it idles lower. Of course, 12-core workloads are generally well threaded, so you won't probably see these at idle as much, but good to know if they do,having 2x the cores doesn't boost power consumption.

Just my personal opinion JF-AMD, but if you're buying one of these processors, you're not worrying about idle load!

Great to see AMD delivering.

[Serra]

Do want.

It is nice to see an AMD product out there that really makes me drool. Now if only I were able to get my mits on some...

[god_43]

amd pr0n.....(writes a note to discuss this with therapist)





lol "is that your FPU unit, or are you just happy to see me?"