The GT300/Fermi Thread - Part 2!

[saaya]

I gotcha, it really does seem like they fell asleep at the wheel in regards to getting any dx11 hardware out the door. Both ATI and Nvidia seem to release the latest on the highend part first before releasing the lower parts so with gt300 delay's you would have thought some midrange to lower end parts would have been scheduled to release by now.

i dont think they fell asleep, they didnt think dx11 was that important, or, most likely, didnt think dx11 matters all that much since the gaming industry has slowed down. they probably checked the plans of major game devs and most of them said they will focus on dx10.1 at most, if not even dx9 cause thats what consoles are stuck at for now, so they decided not to focus on dx11 yet...

and i think they are right... dx11 doesnt matter all that much and isnt necessary yet... BUT that doesnt mean they dont need it... its very important for marketing... who will buy a new 10.1 or 10.0 vga 2 years after he already bought a 10.0 vga? it either has to be cheaper or notably faster than the old card... for most people perf isnt all that important since games arent as demanding right now, so dx11 does matter as a selling point.

and i think nvidia underestimated how many game devs ati can convince to actually adopt dx11, even if its only patched on...

ever since the 600$ 3dfx voodoo2 sli decade+ ago.. thats where the fastest video cards have been hoovering around

one fermi beats 1ghz 58xx @ lower price
one fermi beats 1ghz 59xx @ lower price
one fermi beats 1ghz 6000 @ this is the mofo around 600$

itll take you a long time to regain some credibility in the eyes of everybody who read this post :P

We have video and tech media that have direct quotes from Nvidia PR on a Q1 '10 launch. If they miss that, they are in a world of more hurt than even Charlie could imagine.

im not sure... i think they have until Q2 to come out with fermi... if they still havent launched fermi properly (shipping in volume) in the middle of this year, then LOTS of investors will jump ship... cause thats what nvidia told all the investors really matters, and most fell for it... they all believe in the fairy tales of gpgpu and the huge margins and profits nvidia supposedly will cash in on with fermi. and nvidia promised fermi tesla cards in mid 2010, they never changed that date, they said mid 2010 even at the end of 2009 already, and they stuck to it... but if they miss THAT date, then their stock price will take a major hit...

dont get your hopes too high on 1ghz 58xx/59xx for they shall soon be six feet deep

riiiight
just like G92 has been 6feet deep since gt200 launched...
oh wait, gt200 was shrunk to 55nm, its price was cut in half, it was shrunk to 40nm, had dx10.1 glued on, cut in price again and G92 is still a kick4ss gaming card and unrivaled in price perf... :P

engineers dont spend their time laughing at the competition, they do their jobs. chipworks is a company that analyzes competitors products.

if they have a sense of humor, they sure do

FYI, i asked around regarding fermis @ cebit and didnt get a single reply...
Looks like there wont be any fermis at cebit, at least not in public...
they will probably do another deep dive like event or something like that... i just wonder if it will be a 100% repeat of the event in vegas or if there is anything new... at all...