Quote Originally Posted by highoctane View Post
Thats my sentiment on the issue more or less, there is little choice but to release and work through the issues for a product that has been in development win or loose which is what we've seen with other hardware in the industry. The only way to really have a backup plan would be to actually have a backup design of similar performance potential being developed in parallel in case the first design doesn't work out.
TL no workie, S3 S2000
the no show BitBoyz
the doomed Voodoo4.
hyped beyond belief, and barely propped up with questionable optimization, fx
circuit problem plagued X1800XT
power beast X2900XT

Launching a half-ready product could have worked in the last century.. nowadays with fierce competition and slim margins, the bad press will ruin your company. Only folks like Intel and Microsoft who are too big to fail, can get away with it (a few times).

Quote Originally Posted by highoctane View Post
I gotcha, it really does seem like they fell asleep at the wheel in regards to getting any dx11 hardware out the door. Both ATI and Nvidia seem to release the latest on the highend part first before releasing the lower parts so with gt300 delay's you would have thought some midrange to lower end parts would have been scheduled to release by now.
very good point
I've repeatedly asked the same question too - where are at least rumours of midrange/lowend DX11 tapeout?? Is nVidia abandoning that market segment? Obviously they can't make new Intel or AMD chipsets, so you'd think with resources concentrated on video cards, they'd be the ones ahead of AMD...

FYI Fermi yields will obviously be worse than 5870. Question is how much, and the impact. Even if Fermi is launched at $299, low availability will create $1000 eBay market. ex X800XTPE, iPhone, PS3 etc..