I'm waiting to see who will try to compete with MD230 7680X1600P 120HZ FTW.
I'm waiting to see who will try to compete with MD230 7680X1600P 120HZ FTW.
While 120Hz on TV isn't the same experience, let's be specific so as not to place blame in the wrong area. TV displays that claim 120Hz are indeed panels capable of 120Hz. The video fed into it just isn't 120Hz native. It's purely an issue with input and not the output device part of it (the screen itself).
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Check if you can find Acer G24 i have that screen more than year and it's wary wary good.
Yep better of with Acer wich is 100$ less but you lose very good stand on alienware.Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD
But same as you i am waiting for 24" 120Hz LED, so viewsonic will be first with this panel ?
And yeah gamers are fine with led tn's, so anoyed with argh not TN again..
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you cant rotate the TN panel sideways for an eyefinity setup.
Speak for yourself
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And here I thought I was the only non-TN gamer left.I've gamed on MVA, PVA, and IPS panels. I'm currently using PVA + 2xIPS. I've never owned a TN!
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
24'' should be the standard by now.
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or for $100 less than this pick up that 1920x1080 23" NEC IPS panel.
I for one don't see the point of upgrading my video card to use on my crappy TN panel. A decent IPS or possibly PVA panel will be my next upgrade. I'm sick of the backlight bleed, uneven colors, and horrific viewing angles.
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uh, 24" is big, dude. Depending on how far you sit away from your screen, when you have to move your head to see everything...not good for video games (IMO). I don't think I could play on anything bigger than 22 and 1680x1050. It also takes a honkin vid card to churn out good frame rates at 1920x1080. I'm personally waiting for a 1680x1050 22" 120hz led.
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Try a 24" screen. You'll be amazed by the increase in immersion and I even wish my screen would be bigger. You don't really have to move your head to see everything, the human eyes gets vision of a range of about 160 degrees.
I'll admit, I have a big table. I'm freely able to move my monitor forward and backwards, if I wish, though I like them close. Too close though and it will hurt your eyes. That's where big screens come in.
one reason IMO that 1200 is being replaced by 1080 is the monitor is shorter.
My kids Dell 24" wide screen has the same overal panel as the BenQ 19" std format both same height just wider.
use cheap 19" die and cut the panels wider for more profit. 19" STD LCD = 100.00 add 50% more width = $150.00 charge $300 beacuse its now a 24" """WIDESCREEN""
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Running 46" 1920x1080 here.. never gonna go back to sub-40!
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Yes but that 120 pixel less are a pain for aa...any screen???
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Where's the lovin' for the great 30" 2560x1600?
I'd still prefer that over a 23"?
I'm here!!!+1 to the 30" LUV Mine!!
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I'm with you, they start at a €1000 and then I'm not even talking about the investment needed to make my system up to the task of handling such a massive resolution.I'd be all over one if I could afford it.
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Err except for the viewing angles you can have the same problems on a IPS/VA* screen
Also on VA* you get color shift so the image is still altered if you change your position relative to the screen.
Before you complain about lag, think about Jesus. He lagged three days before respawning.
469$ for a Crappy TN panel. No thanks.
Uhhh what? No it won't, it'll just have black bars on the top and bottom.
Doesn't really hurt the viewing experience at all since the movie is the same size on a 1920x1200 monitor as it is on a 1920x1080 one of the same size, just that it doesn't fill the frame.
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Above 1920 pixels in width, and not above 1080 in height...
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This is a step in the right direction. Took awhile. Now just need ips + 120hz and I'll pay the premium for one.
Alieneware is owned by Dell, and this is a Dell screen, so im sure well see a cheaper Dell version soon, i hope.
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