The GT300/Fermi Thread

[saaya]

fermi2 tag added

[RoadconeTuning]

idk about you but i cant wait for fermi 2.5...

[KingOfsorroW]

to hell fermi, let's wait for fermi2 !!

[Olivon]

Oh my, nv has people dangerously brainwashed. This would make an interesting sociology thesis I'm sure. What does common sense say about fermi if they are already leaking info about fermi 2, when the first is still two months away from launch? Does nv think its cool to manipulate kids like this?

It's particulary funny to read ya' about fan's brainwashing ... You know really well the problem, isn't it ?

[Nedjo]

so now we are waiting for fermi 2

well there are always people ready to wait indefinitely! Our own fellow member Glow9 is awaiting for new platform ever since AMD started platform approach with Spider! He's evaluating Leo, but he'll probably await another year for next platform

[Sly Fox]

Nvidia's in trouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuble!

At least they still have a healthy group of believers to try and spread the message for the time being. Wonder how long that will even last?

[Sam_oslo]

ATi stated talking bout 28nm lately, as in this news AMD shows 28nm wafer GlobalFoundries to meet new card? and again a few days later the CEO was out and talking about ATi HD6000 series - "Second Half of 2010 – AMD’s CEO." .

I'm not sure what is going on, but everybody is talking about the end av the year while we are still in Jan. Is ATi trying to justify jumping over a refresh (or new GPU) to counter the GF100?, and is it possible at nVidia brought it just because ATi was taking bout it?

Anyways what comes in 6 months is not interesting today, either it should come from ATi or nVidia.

[LesGrossman]

Anyways what comes in 6 months is not interesting today, either it should come from ATi or nVidia.

So why all the talk about fermi in the last months and the "smart thing to do is wait for fermi"?

Let's all talk about how great R970 is gonna be and how smart it is to wait for it.

[FischOderAal]

So why all the talk about fermi in the last months and the "smart thing to do is wait for fermi"?

Let's all talk about how great R970 is gonna be and how smart it is to wait for it.

Back in those days many ppl were expecting a november/december '09 release...

[Jowy Atreides]

So why all the talk about fermi in the last months and the "smart thing to do is wait for fermi"?

Let's all talk about how great R970 is gonna be and how smart it is to wait for it.

You're being sarcastic but actually, that's not a bad idea.

RV970 discussion topic ahoy!

[Sam_oslo]

So why all the talk about fermi in the last months and the "smart thing to do is wait for fermi"?

Let's all talk about how great R970 is gonna be and how smart it is to wait for it.

Because the upcoming GPU is always very interesting. After all Gf100 it is only weeks away, if it doesn't get delayed (in good nVidia tradisjon) again., of course .

The GF100 and a refresh (or new GPU) from ATi to counter it, is the only interesting news right now. Talking about Fermi2, a 28nm ATi or HD6000 is really strange right now, don't you think so?

[neliz]

It's all related, Fermi2 is the new NV35/RV670 and Northern Islands is what was originally planned against Fermi. Saying those things don't matter is showing a complete disregard for History and the future of the current topic at hand.

Why don't we speculate on some "new" AF modes, or a reduction in cost to utilize AF?

[LordEC911]

I think that was number of units "sold" as in ordered. Not necessarily produced yet. And pretty sure that report included the Mobility 5000 series products as well, a majority of which have not been delivered yet, and only recently publicly announced. But I'm sure they secured orders for them from the big companies months ago.

At least, the last report about millions of ATI DX11 GPUs was posted here, someone incorrectly assumed it meant units shipped. But by now, 3 million shipped seems possible.

Because it WAS units shipped.
You cannot do your numbers like that anymore, thanks to Enron.

[takamishanoku]

I guess all will make sense come March with Fermi launched. Have to say though that simply with Nvidia talking already about fermi 2, G100 would most probably not be as quick as some would hope.

But hey end of the day there should be two great products; 5870/5970 and Fermi. Each will no doubt have their advantages. I am only hoping for a price cut..pretty please!!!

[neliz]

I am only hoping for a price cut..pretty please!!!

For the love of *** LordEC911 was pretty close with his cost guestimate for GF100 (in reality it's a bit cheaper) We were at an all-time low for graphics card prices. It only goes UP from here.

[Marios]

Is it possible for TSMC to produce 2m 40nm evergreen chips on their phase 4 plant?
They had yield problems and a few other 40nm customers.
What's TSMC's 40nm daily production? I though it was very limited.

[Blacky]

Fermi II is probably to be what happened on G80 > G92 , I don't think nvidia is going to release a totally different arch compared to original fermi, since they made fermi arch very flexible... now the potential HD5000 series users that were planning to jump the bandwagon to fermi probably are going to wait for Fermi II

[neliz]

Is it possible for TSMC to produce 2m 40nm evergreen chips on their phase 4 plant?
They had yield problems and a few other 40nm customers.
What's TSMC's 40nm daily production? I though it was very limited.

I thought capacity now is around 40k wafer starts per month must've been from a digitimes article.

[GoldenTiger]

Fermi II is probably to be what happened on G80 > G92 , I don't think nvidia is going to release a totally different arch compared to original fermi, since they made fermi arch very flexible... now the potential HD5000 series users that were planning to jump the bandwagon to fermi probably are going to wait for Fermi II

Nah, I'm jumping ship to the Fermi unless it sucks badly, regardless... I very much dislike my 5870 due to the drivers (from lots of glitches to annoying control panel to fan throttling not working right at defaults in the driver to annoying dual-link DVI artifacts (confirmed with two different 5870's and two monitors one single-link lower rez and one 2560x1600 dual-link one)).

[Decami]

I love how fermi 2 is mentioned from non other than fudzilla and already people are going into the "lets make fun of nvidia" band wagon.

if this is true, it still gives us nothing more to go on. Shoot this could be another G80/G92 1, 2 knock out punch planned. Nvidia knows refreshes are on the way from ATI. or it could mean major fail. Fermi still stands in the neutral territory with this info. Lots of people here like to see companies fall my god, and for ridiculous reasons.

[YukonTrooper]

Oh my, nv has people dangerously brainwashed. This would make an interesting sociology thesis I'm sure. What does common sense say about fermi if they are already leaking info about fermi 2, when the first is still two months away from launch? Does nv think its cool to manipulate kids like this?

I'm thinking the thesis would crash and burn in a flaming ball of F-minus. None of what you said makes sense. People dangerously brainwashed? Manipulation of kids? Huh?

[Chumbucket843]

could you find me one person who would do that? nv doesnt have to do anything at all for them to buy their products. if you are hinting that fermi is going to be a flop you should note that its missing several elements. its just really late. i think your post history could make an interesting case study too.

[migunani]

Fermi 2 is gonna rock since the basic frameworks seems very strong but first they need to send fermi 1 out of the gate

Well, AMD/ATI is smart. If indeed Fermi2 will be out in Q4 2010. I believe ATI will skip HD6000 series and jump straight to HD7000 or even HD8000 which will be waaayy.. faster and much much more more powerful.

eat that NVIDIA!

[tbone8ty]

Nvidia just needs to come to the market ASAP

i dont care which company is better or worse,

u can only have a game if there are 2 teams on the field

[Decami]

Well, AMD/ATI is smart. If indeed Fermi2 will be out in Q4 2010. I believe ATI will skip HD6000 series and jump straight to HD7000 or even HD8000 which will be waaayy.. faster and much much more more powerful.

eat that NVIDIA!

i dont know if this was a joke or not, but uh 3 series of GPUs in 1 years, not likely. Lol and skipping a series, thats technically impossible, you cant skip something that never existed. Of course, im guessing this was meant to be sarcastic