The GT300/Fermi Thread

[Nedjo]

Besides, where is the source offering cards ready for sale 3 months prior to the Cypress/Juniper release? I like to read that.

in the beginning of June at COMPUTEX 09 AMD and TSMC demonstrated working Evergreen card and GPU (according to some opinions it was Juniper, and to others it was Cypress). So there you have three months: June-September

[Eastcoasthandle]

in the beginning of June at COMPUTEX 09 AMD and TSMC demonstrated working Evergreen card and GPU (according to some opinions it was Juniper, and to others it was Cypress). So there you have three months: June-September

I'm talking about the figures he posted.

[Nedjo]

I'm talking about the figures he posted.

well if AMD said that they've shipped 800K of chips 'tll the Christmas, I guess there's now way to do it in 25. September - 25 December timeframe!? So they needed to manufacture significant quantities months before the launch. Right?

[v_rr]

No, It was 300k Cypresses in under 3 months and 500k Junipers in about 2 months. source

3 Million DX_11 GPU on 2009 says AMD on the financial conference.
Until March they can reach 10 million or more with the Redwood, Cedar on desktop and the top-bottom mobile GPU's. From January until March is a entire Quarter.

[Eastcoasthandle]

well if AMD said that they've shipped 800K of chips 'tll the Christmas, I guess there's now way to do it in 25. September - 25 December timeframe!? So they needed to manufacture significant quantities months before the launch. Right?

Which would mean that it would have to be more then 20k-40k right? In order to correlate any comparison between Fermi's available to Cypress/Juniper availability we need to know if TMSC was in the same manufacturing capacity. From what I recall TMSC was not. So, I don't see how one can make such a comparison.

[Nedjo]

3 Million DX_11 GPU on 2009 says AMD on the financial conference.

any link for transcript from the conference?

[Serra]

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[GoldenTiger]

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At the end of the day good tags = traffic for XS, so let's leave them be, OK guys?

Roger that.

[***Deimos***]

The old Fermi threads were all started around August/Sept.. so here's to idle specualtion.. and lots and lots of waiting.
Aug09 - when Fermi comes out in the fall its going to DESTROY everything
Sept09 - Ha Ha, Cypress is just 2x 4870. Fermi for the WIN.
Oct09 - Ok ok, a few weeks late.. its TMSC fault, duh.. PS: That's me in the facebook page photo
Nov09 - See!?... see!? Its a real card. They are just putting finishing touches.
Dec09 - DX11 doesn't really matter.
Jan10 - DX11 DOES matter.
Feb10 - ....?

[RoadconeTuning]

so the guess is late feb to mid march for a fermi launch? i want to buy nvidia but the old ati stuff outruns it for cheaper and the new ati stuff kills it for the same price... i need to replace my 9600GT

[saaya]

god job at pointing out nvidias 180 spin on dx11 deimos
they did it in a smart way, they kept saying dx11 doesnt matter, and then started pushing tesselation and how awesome and important tesselation was... well guess what, tesselation is the main feature dx11 is buit around

[neliz]

"DX11 doesn't matter" Actually stems from Computex '09.
And NO I don't have any factual numbers on the pre-release amounts besides what I hear from AMD. When I heard 20 to 40.000..

I said.. wafers, right?

no ... cards!

[JohnZS]

god job at pointing out nvidias 180 spin on dx11 deimos
they did it in a smart way, they kept saying dx11 doesnt matter, and then started pushing tesselation and how awesome and important tesselation was... well guess what, tesselation is the main feature dx11 is buit around

It is rather amusing isn't it, I mentioned that earlier in the thread how ironic that DirectX 11 is not quite so insignificant now

The big n do get rather annoying at times with their PR and Spin, but I can see what they were saying. At the time they made that statement there were no DirectX 11 games available.

John

[neliz]

The big n do get rather annoying at times with their PR and Spin, but I can see what they were saying. At the time they made that statement there were no DirectX 11 games available.

IT doesn't affect you or me as an end-user. But that statement wasn't meant for you or me. It was directed at System Builders and Developers.

Edit: Nedjo, Computex demo's were displayed on Evergreen Broadway : Juniper.

[kgk]

3 Million DX_11 GPU on 2009 says AMD on the financial conference.
Until March they can reach 10 million or more with the Redwood, Cedar on desktop and the top-bottom mobile GPU's. From January until March is a entire Quarter.

I think that was number of units "sold" as in ordered. Not necessarily produced yet. And pretty sure that report included the Mobility 5000 series products as well, a majority of which have not been delivered yet, and only recently publicly announced. But I'm sure they secured orders for them from the big companies months ago.

At least, the last report about millions of ATI DX11 GPUs was posted here, someone incorrectly assumed it meant units shipped. But by now, 3 million shipped seems possible.

[gifaro]

so the guess is late feb to mid march for a fermi launch? ...

hope too. I have sold in few hours my three GTX 285 and now I have to wait Fermi

[annihilat0r]

hope too. I have sold in few hours my three GTX 285 and now I have to wait Fermi

I'm sure Fermi will allow you to play those games you couldn't with your 3 GTX 285's.

[Florinmocanu]

At least, the last report about millions of ATI DX11 GPUs was posted here, someone incorrectly assumed it meant units shipped. But by now, 3 million shipped seems possible.

they said 2 million units shipped, i think that makes it pretty clear. Dunno why everyone doubts ati/amds announcement, they delivered on everything they said, all releases came as announced, no delays etc., we have no reasons to doubt it

[Sentential]

I'm sure Fermi will allow you to play those games you couldn't with your 3 GTX 285's.

SLi doesnt scale as well as you'd think especially in mmo type games that are seriously CPU bound; adding to that overhead with SLI does more harm than good.

Im waiting for them as well and infact just picked up a 240GTS for my Physx card; I have full confidence that nVidia can pull this off; abeit very late but meh.

[KingOfsorroW]

god job at pointing out nvidias 180 spin on dx11 deimos
they did it in a smart way, they kept saying dx11 doesnt matter, and then started pushing tesselation and how awesome and important tesselation was... well guess what, tesselation is the main feature dx11 is buit around

Thats how nv does it and thats why many people don't like it. But I'll be getting like 2 of those fermies when they become avaible anyway... Most likely. Got used to nv iq for the past years too much.
By the way,"it looks like" nv works on the 2nd gen of the fermi cards already:
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17387/1/

[ajaidev]

Fermi 2 is gonna rock since the basic frameworks seems very strong but first they need to send fermi 1 out of the gate

[saaya]

Fermi 2 is gonna rock since the basic frameworks seems very strong but first they need to send fermi 1 out of the gate

well i dont think the problem with fermi1 was the design... at all... the problem with fermi1 was/is tsmc...
unless nvidia realizes that leaning that much on tsmcs shoulders isnt such a great idea and change their overall strategy, i dont think fermi2 will be any more successful than fermi1...

[KingOfsorroW]

Fermi 2 is gonna rock since the basic frameworks seems very strong but first they need to send fermi 1 out of the gate

Indeed.

[eric66]

so now we are waiting for fermi 2

[neliz]

so now we are waiting for fermi 2

As Jen-Hsun Huang said himself "If you don't have products, you talk about the future"

From the department of Evangelism.