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    Source: http://www.tcmagazine.com/
    Samsung Electronics has today introduced a couple new 23-inch SyncMaster monitors which can brag about having a static contrast ratio of 3000:1 and a DCR of 150,000:1. Both the SyncMaster 70 Series F2370H and 80 Series F2380MX are Full HD, boast HDMI connectivity, and have a wide viewing angle of 178 degrees.

    The F2370H has a Touch of Color design and a glossy black finish, while the F2380MX features a less chic construction that's more practical and offers tilt and 130mm height adjustment.

    The F2370H and F2380MX monitors are priced at $352 and $370, respectively.





    eH-IPS I suppose? Their previous eH-IPS models weren't so good iirc...

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    or maybe LED backlighting

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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Source: http://www.tcmagazine.com/

    eH-IPS I suppose? Their previous eH-IPS models weren't so good iirc...
    Not from Samsung, some form of PVA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    eH-IPS I suppose?
    No, c-PVA, why don't you do your research
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank M View Post
    No, c-PVA, why don't you do your research
    Whoa, arrogant much? WTG on such attitude...
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    lol about the research part you all should smoke some Weeee da

    Those panels are sweet, put three of the side by side and you have a very good base for 3 monitor eyefi
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    meh... 16:9...

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    Aren't PVA's the worst of the three techs, when it comes to response times? I know my current *VA is a blurry lagging whore for fast paced games. That's why I still use this CRT.

    I'm not sure how IPS stacks up response wise. I know TN is supposed to be the best in that regard. But I wonder if a 120Hz TN would still drive me crazy with blur and input lag like my *VA does.

    Wasn't SED (a now dead tech ) supposed to give us both awesome color and CRT-level response times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaidev View Post
    lol about the research part you all should smoke some Weeee da

    Those panels are sweet, put three of the side by side and you have a very good base for 3 monitor eyefi
    PVA panels historically have high input lag. So, while they can put out a very nice picture, with deeper blacks than most IPS panels, they are generally not good for gaming. It would be nice if that changed and gamers could suddenly have a lot more choices in 8-bit panels.
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    Cute. The monitors are alright too I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    meh... 16:9...
    Everything seems to be 16:9 these days. I suggest switching from "meh... 16:9..." to "meh... just 1080 horizontal lines" since 16:10 seems to be nearly gone.
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    I still want my 1920x1200 24" monitor....
    It's slowly starting to look like I will just have to make do with a 1080p monitor though . I just hope they will do an IPS based 120 Hz panel with pretty much no input lag.
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    Generally speaking, in terms of output quality:
    IPS > MVA/PVA > * > TN

    MVA/PVA is fine for gaming if it's a decent overdrive panel.

    TNs look like garbage. I don't enjoy sitting in front of a 22" monitor on a white screen and have the center look almost white and all the edges look tan. Talk about a narrow practical viewing angle. Geeze.
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    I like the square rugged luck of the white one. I'm not a fan of the look of the black one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikecdm View Post
    I like the square rugged luck of the white one. I'm not a fan of the look of the black one.
    I personally think the black one looks cool, but like most 'non-professional' monitors, it gotta have a totally garbage plastic stand which will let the screen tilt left and right if you even slightly shake the desk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Everything seems to be 16:9 these days. I suggest switching from "meh... 16:9..." to "meh... just 1080 horizontal lines" since 16:10 seems to be nearly gone.
    As long as eizo is still making them (and the recently just released a 22" 1920x1200 PVA display) im happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    As long as eizo is still making them (and the recently just released a 22" 1920x1200 PVA display) im happy.
    Just a pity their stuff isn't very affordable... But everything comes at a price I guess.
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    It itsn't that bad, the monitor i mentioned sells for ~500€, many think its much, but when you once worked with a decent monitor you can't go back.

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    More 1080 crap.

    Looks like this HD crap is lowering resolution standards once again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    meh... 16:9...
    Yeah

    New HP ones look pretty good though... 16:10: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=243204

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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Whoa, arrogant much? WTG on such attitude...
    Arrogance? Your take. But the previous model has been out for about a
    year yet you don't know which panel it is you post the news about.

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    On topic: better than TN, hopefully better lag than the previous one,
    which was a disaster in that regard (very high lag), but it's priced
    unreasonably high: even though the previous was also priced a bit high
    so it did not sell well, this is priced even higher, even though 24"+ *VA/
    IPS monitors and LCD TVs have been coming down in price in the
    meantime... for just a bit more, there are 24-26" IPS monitors, which
    may be a bit worse at black levels and contrast, but are much better at
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    Quote Originally Posted by mejobloggs View Post
    Yeah

    New HP ones look pretty good though... 16:10: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=243204
    hmm duno the 24" seems ok, but the 22" smells awfully like an 16:9 monitor...

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    what's all the hate on 16:9 about?

    you guys weren't complaining about the 2560x1440 monitors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helloworld_98 View Post
    what's all the hate on 16:9 about?

    you guys weren't complaining about the 2560x1440 monitors.
    Cause 1440 is not a step back from 1200...

    I have come form a 1600x1200 display to a 1920x1200 display, so i lost nothing, but gained a bit more width.

    But of course the guys with a 16:10 2560*1600 display also wouldn't want to make a step back to a 1440 display.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helloworld_98 View Post
    what's all the hate on 16:9 about?

    you guys weren't complaining about the 2560x1440 monitors.
    It's an odd aspect ratio and I noticed a lot more of that fisheye effect while gaming when going from a 1680x1050 to a 1920x1080 panel. It also felt like the top of my monitor was missing for the longest time.

    I want to move away from a TN panel pretty badly and won't settle for a 16:9. I like the sound of these panels price wise.

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