The GT300/Fermi Thread

[BenchZowner]

I don't think those 50-60% over HD5870 is going to be the average and typical result for most games.

All nVidia needs to do it to get 20% ahead of HD5870 with a dissent power composition. Even if they could get much more out of the GF100, they would probably limit the performance of the retail GPU just about 20% over HD5870, I would think.

Two takes here.
1) What you just said
2) GTX 360 = 10-20% better than the 5870, just a tad higher price than the 5870 & GTX 380 close to the 5970 with a bit better ( lower obviously ) price.