Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
My understanding is that Nvidia has aimed big, which has a lot of advantages and disadvantages. Now, when Nvidia does a presentation about this before the cards are out, they are obviously going to point out the advantages (tessellation, geometric computing, GPGPU etc.) and leave out the disadvantages (price, heat). And from what we are hearing, 1.25x 5870 is what Fermi is going to be, and that isn't exactly a great advantage.

So Nvidia leaves that out. Dirt and Stalker don't use enough tessellation to make Fermi really stand out, so it's going to be at best 1.3x better than a 5870.
This is a good point for everyone to remember. This was a PR presentation. They'll highlight the good and keep the bad under covers. After the hype wears off, read between the lines.

For example... They said 2.33x faster for 8xAA than a GTX285. That's great... Until one remembers that the GT200 and G92 cards were notorious for choking at 8xAA. I have no doubt Fermi will be the fastest single GPU but I'm mindful of the PR work at it's best